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	<title>Comments on: Morgan poll has Greens at 9%</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37824</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37824</guid>
		<description>Thanks JH... if I hadn't been winding down I might have figured it out myself.  

respectfully 
BJ

google  "navigators balls"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks JH&#8230; if I hadn&#8217;t been winding down I might have figured it out myself.  </p>
<p>respectfully<br />
BJ</p>
<p>google  &#8220;navigators balls&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37823</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37823</guid>
		<description>Thanks JH... if I hadn't been winding down I might have figured it out myself.  

respectfully 
BJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks JH&#8230; if I hadn&#8217;t been winding down I might have figured it out myself.  </p>
<p>respectfully<br />
BJ</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37820</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37820</guid>
		<description>bjchip Says:

JH

there has been a massive shift in wealth from those who own assets at the expense of those who don’t

Not to pick nits but could you rephrase this?. This hour of night and I;m on autopilot and sh!t like this is like a binnacle with one ball.


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there has been a massive shift in wealth &lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt; those who own assets at the expense of those who don’t.

Due to recent credit expansion, benefiting eg those with a leveraged property portfolio at the expense of those who save and those who want to buy. Of course house prices are falling but.....

"In New Zealand, the correlation between net migration inflows and house price inflation is striking, as illustrated in graph 3".. Alan Bollard

http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/speeches/0145812.html#fnB1

and we have a globalised property market.

No matter what you here from certain sectors there seems to common sense coming from the conservative Austrian school.


 http://www.dailyreckoning.co.uk/article/180120072.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bjchip Says:</p>
<p>JH</p>
<p>there has been a massive shift in wealth from those who own assets at the expense of those who don’t</p>
<p>Not to pick nits but could you rephrase this?. This hour of night and I;m on autopilot and sh!t like this is like a binnacle with one ball.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
there has been a massive shift in wealth <i>to</i> those who own assets at the expense of those who don’t.</p>
<p>Due to recent credit expansion, benefiting eg those with a leveraged property portfolio at the expense of those who save and those who want to buy. Of course house prices are falling but&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8220;In New Zealand, the correlation between net migration inflows and house price inflation is striking, as illustrated in graph 3&#8243;.. Alan Bollard</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/speeches/0145812.html#fnB1" >http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/speeches/0145812.html#fnB1</a></p>
<p>and we have a globalised property market.</p>
<p>No matter what you here from certain sectors there seems to common sense coming from the conservative Austrian school.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.dailyreckoning.co.uk/article/180120072.html" >http://www.dailyreckoning.co.uk/article/180120072.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37808</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37808</guid>
		<description>In case anyone has today's Dom post, there is an EXCELLENT summary of the government policy in the letters to the editor today.  ;-)

respectfully 
BJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case anyone has today&#8217;s Dom post, there is an EXCELLENT summary of the government policy in the letters to the editor today.  <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>respectfully<br />
BJ</p>
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		<title>By: Kevyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37757</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37757</guid>
		<description>The only reason house prices went through the roof after the RMA was introduced is because banks added a risk premium onto loans to property developers to cover the possibility of a consent being declined due to the RMA being interpreted largely on a case by case basis and when this is compounded over the extra time it takes to get a resource consent to subdivide compared with just getting a council permit the property developers ended up having to charge twice as much to make the same profit they could previously have made by only charging half as much because they could have done the job in half the time.

Good grief, if there's a land shortage in Auckland all you have to do is make some more land. Fill one or two of your harbours. Solves your landfill problems, gets rid of the main traffic bottleneck twixt north and south, cheaper than building a second bridge. See... a win-win-win solution. Hey, people living on Waiheke could even walk to work, how good is that for the environment :mrgreen: :oops:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason house prices went through the roof after the RMA was introduced is because banks added a risk premium onto loans to property developers to cover the possibility of a consent being declined due to the RMA being interpreted largely on a case by case basis and when this is compounded over the extra time it takes to get a resource consent to subdivide compared with just getting a council permit the property developers ended up having to charge twice as much to make the same profit they could previously have made by only charging half as much because they could have done the job in half the time.</p>
<p>Good grief, if there&#8217;s a land shortage in Auckland all you have to do is make some more land. Fill one or two of your harbours. Solves your landfill problems, gets rid of the main traffic bottleneck twixt north and south, cheaper than building a second bridge. See&#8230; a win-win-win solution. Hey, people living on Waiheke could even walk to work, how good is that for the environment <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif' alt=':oops:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37750</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37750</guid>
		<description>JH

&lt;b&gt;there has been a massive shift in wealth from those who own assets at the expense of those who don’t&lt;/b&gt;

Not to pick nits but could you rephrase this?.  This hour of night and I;m on autopilot and sh!t like this is like a binnacle with one ball. 

:-)

Tell the truth everyone,  how many of you have the slightest idea what that means?  

:-)

respectfully 
BJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JH</p>
<p><b>there has been a massive shift in wealth from those who own assets at the expense of those who don’t</b></p>
<p>Not to pick nits but could you rephrase this?.  This hour of night and I;m on autopilot and sh!t like this is like a binnacle with one ball. </p>
<p> <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Tell the truth everyone,  how many of you have the slightest idea what that means?  </p>
<p> <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>respectfully<br />
BJ</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37743</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37743</guid>
		<description>jh said: &lt;i&gt;I don’t see the greens wading into the housing affordabilty issue.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, Sue Bradford did make&lt;a href="http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/speech11606.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this speech&lt;/a&gt; yesterday.

But the timing is not right.  The Government have scored a bit of a hit with their initiatives, and while the Greens believe they can offer much more comprehensive and effective policy initiatives than the Government in this area, it is not sensible to trot them out as a knee-jerk reaction to an announcement the Government has earned a few brownie points with the public on.

And, from what I gather from internal Party membership consultation, some of the detail of Green policy re this is still being worked through. 

I am sure the Greens will enter the debate strongly in his area in the next few months, but in their own time, rather than in reactive mode to a Govenment announcement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jh said: <i>I don’t see the greens wading into the housing affordabilty issue.</i></p>
<p>Well, Sue Bradford did make<a href="http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/speech11606.html" >this speech</a> yesterday.</p>
<p>But the timing is not right.  The Government have scored a bit of a hit with their initiatives, and while the Greens believe they can offer much more comprehensive and effective policy initiatives than the Government in this area, it is not sensible to trot them out as a knee-jerk reaction to an announcement the Government has earned a few brownie points with the public on.</p>
<p>And, from what I gather from internal Party membership consultation, some of the detail of Green policy re this is still being worked through. </p>
<p>I am sure the Greens will enter the debate strongly in his area in the next few months, but in their own time, rather than in reactive mode to a Govenment announcement.</p>
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		<title>By: peterquixote</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37740</link>
		<dc:creator>peterquixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37740</guid>
		<description>try to pull youself together fwwog gets 5% thats it ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>try to pull youself together fwwog gets 5% thats it ,</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37738</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37738</guid>
		<description>I don't see the greens wading into the   housing affordabilty issue. It seems to be settled that the supply of land is the problem. Hugh Pavletich got about  10 minutes on TV1 this morning complete with slides of  cheaper housing and promises of $200,000 houses. 

What about the massive  increase in the money supply ( Alan Greenspan and all that) and asset inflation while general inflation is suppressed by an unlimited supply of cheap labour. 

Asset inflation doesn't create wealth but creates a charge somewhere else in the economy (&lt;b&gt;there has been a massive shift in wealth from those who own assets at the expense of those who don't&lt;/b&gt; &#62;&#62;&#62; so is that not connected to high house prices and housing affordability.

 What about migration? In the press (today) a property expert talks about house prices in relation to interest rates wages and migration (no mention of the supply of land thing). 

We seem to be living in a world of parallel realities. One world is &lt;i&gt;Telly&lt;/i&gt; world and that is dominated by the interests of advertisers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the greens wading into the   housing affordabilty issue. It seems to be settled that the supply of land is the problem. Hugh Pavletich got about  10 minutes on TV1 this morning complete with slides of  cheaper housing and promises of $200,000 houses. </p>
<p>What about the massive  increase in the money supply ( Alan Greenspan and all that) and asset inflation while general inflation is suppressed by an unlimited supply of cheap labour. </p>
<p>Asset inflation doesn&#8217;t create wealth but creates a charge somewhere else in the economy (<b>there has been a massive shift in wealth from those who own assets at the expense of those who don&#8217;t</b> &gt;&gt;&gt; so is that not connected to high house prices and housing affordability.</p>
<p> What about migration? In the press (today) a property expert talks about house prices in relation to interest rates wages and migration (no mention of the supply of land thing). </p>
<p>We seem to be living in a world of parallel realities. One world is <i>Telly</i> world and that is dominated by the interests of advertisers.</p>
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		<title>By: big bro</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37721</link>
		<dc:creator>big bro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/02/11/morgan-poll-has-greens-at-9/#comment-37721</guid>
		<description>Toad

England will be a much tougher side to beat when it comes time for real cricket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toad</p>
<p>England will be a much tougher side to beat when it comes time for real cricket.</p>
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