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	<title>Comments on: Exporting climate change</title>
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	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
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		<title>By: Kevyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/31/exporting-climate-change/#comment-37119</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;all government websites are absolute garbage. why is that?&quot; Because a well informed public might get stroppy.</description>
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<p>&#8220;all government websites are absolute garbage. why is that?&#8221; Because a well informed public might get stroppy.</p>
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		<title>By: Blair Anderson</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/31/exporting-climate-change/#comment-37097</link>
		<dc:creator>Blair Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;and we can’t export more to the detriment of our own environment. 

The problem is, we do.</description>
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<p>&gt;and we can’t export more to the detriment of our own environment. </p>
<p>The problem is, we do.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/31/exporting-climate-change/#comment-37064</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was that a rise in volumes or just prices?

and where&#039;s my previous post?</description>
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<p>was that a rise in volumes or just prices?</p>
<p>and where&#8217;s my previous post?</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/31/exporting-climate-change/#comment-37063</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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WHY am i not surprised?  you can never find a statistic on the statistics website.  all government websites are absolute garbage.  why is that?</description>
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<p>WHY am i not surprised?  you can never find a statistic on the statistics website.  all government websites are absolute garbage.  why is that?</p>
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/31/exporting-climate-change/#comment-37051</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a sense, we can (if we work at it) export the energy of the winds that we catch in our turbines and the geothermal power beneath our feet, and the produce that  grows in our benign climate and do so to our profit and the benefit of the planet as a whole.    Which is exactly right Samiuela.   

All we have to do is understand that there are limits to how much we can grow, catch and collect and we can&#039;t export more to the detriment of our own environment. 

Thanks
Respectfully 
BJ</description>
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<p>In a sense, we can (if we work at it) export the energy of the winds that we catch in our turbines and the geothermal power beneath our feet, and the produce that  grows in our benign climate and do so to our profit and the benefit of the planet as a whole.    Which is exactly right Samiuela.   </p>
<p>All we have to do is understand that there are limits to how much we can grow, catch and collect and we can&#8217;t export more to the detriment of our own environment. </p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Respectfully<br />
BJ</p>
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		<title>By: samiuela</title>
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		<dc:creator>samiuela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are told to &quot;think globally and act locally&quot;. Maybe thinking globally means we should export dairy products, if we can produce them at a lower cost to the environment than other places?  Maybe we should export aluminium from a smelter which uses hydro-electricity, instead of importing aluminium from smelters in Australia which use electricity generated from burning coal?

All I&#039;m saying is that sometimes what seems to be bad at first sight may actually be better than the alternatives.</description>
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<p>We are told to &#8220;think globally and act locally&#8221;. Maybe thinking globally means we should export dairy products, if we can produce them at a lower cost to the environment than other places?  Maybe we should export aluminium from a smelter which uses hydro-electricity, instead of importing aluminium from smelters in Australia which use electricity generated from burning coal?</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that sometimes what seems to be bad at first sight may actually be better than the alternatives.</p>
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