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	<title>Comments on: Too much meat?</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37159</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37159</guid>
		<description>silly me !..stuey..!..eh..?

you only do what hq says..eh..?

(i forgot there for a moment..!..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>silly me !..stuey..!..eh..?</p>
<p>you only do what hq says..eh..?</p>
<p>(i forgot there for a moment..!..)</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: weedeater</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37154</link>
		<dc:creator>weedeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37154</guid>
		<description>all right sam buchanan, sorry too, i am a militant anti-meat eater sometimes, but most of my friends are meat eaters and i generally turn a blind if disapproving eye.

its just a philosophical thing i get annoyed about because people dont want to think it through and i was there once myself making jokes about Morrisey's lyrics on 'meat is murder' , making me hungry...

naturally you are defensive  when faced with such condemnation but there is no argument that meat is not violent even if someone else is paid to do the killin, and by extrapolation, greedy and immoral.

it would be good if hemp could actually line up against its competition without all th noxious prohibition baggage it is tied to. Henry ford built a car out of it around 1940, so how much better ought technology to be now with non fossil-fuel plastics etc???

 I for one would like to be able to grow it for the seed because it is badly missing from my diet - and it is all because of a stupid and corrupt war on drugs that the Greens wont advocate against. that really gets my goat a bit too in case u havent noticed 

eg i dont like the purportedly holistic view on youth crime problem that neglects to factor in criminalisation (not sure what happend to my post on the boot-camp thread, frog?). 

greens as dumb as Clark and Key - or just as intellectually dishonest?

rgds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all right sam buchanan, sorry too, i am a militant anti-meat eater sometimes, but most of my friends are meat eaters and i generally turn a blind if disapproving eye.</p>
<p>its just a philosophical thing i get annoyed about because people dont want to think it through and i was there once myself making jokes about Morrisey&#8217;s lyrics on &#8216;meat is murder&#8217; , making me hungry&#8230;</p>
<p>naturally you are defensive  when faced with such condemnation but there is no argument that meat is not violent even if someone else is paid to do the killin, and by extrapolation, greedy and immoral.</p>
<p>it would be good if hemp could actually line up against its competition without all th noxious prohibition baggage it is tied to. Henry ford built a car out of it around 1940, so how much better ought technology to be now with non fossil-fuel plastics etc???</p>
<p> I for one would like to be able to grow it for the seed because it is badly missing from my diet - and it is all because of a stupid and corrupt war on drugs that the Greens wont advocate against. that really gets my goat a bit too in case u havent noticed </p>
<p>eg i dont like the purportedly holistic view on youth crime problem that neglects to factor in criminalisation (not sure what happend to my post on the boot-camp thread, frog?). </p>
<p>greens as dumb as Clark and Key - or just as intellectually dishonest?</p>
<p>rgds</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37050</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37050</guid>
		<description>"youre only fooling yourself sam buchannan and your statement is offencive, meat eaters are good at that (its a way of life). adn you are quite wrong because sentient means to have feelings and you obviously dont have many."

Sorry, weedeater, silly joke it was. I think your somewhat intolerant comment "Meat eating is immoral and greedy and voilent (sic)" sparked it. 

By the way, don't you think your statements that being offensive is a way of life for meat eaters, and that I don't have feelings, are a trifle offensive?

I've nothing against hemp production, just the tendency of some to see it as a magic cure for economic and environmental ills. I think you'll find hemp isn't as great for the environment as its advocates claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;youre only fooling yourself sam buchannan and your statement is offencive, meat eaters are good at that (its a way of life). adn you are quite wrong because sentient means to have feelings and you obviously dont have many.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, weedeater, silly joke it was. I think your somewhat intolerant comment &#8220;Meat eating is immoral and greedy and voilent (sic)&#8221; sparked it. </p>
<p>By the way, don&#8217;t you think your statements that being offensive is a way of life for meat eaters, and that I don&#8217;t have feelings, are a trifle offensive?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve nothing against hemp production, just the tendency of some to see it as a magic cure for economic and environmental ills. I think you&#8217;ll find hemp isn&#8217;t as great for the environment as its advocates claim.</p>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37015</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37015</guid>
		<description>how about doing a website featuring them stuey..?..

(and local..!..)

y'know..!

..streaming vid of the cowshit pouring into/polluting our waterways (every day) could be quite an effective agit-prop tool..

bring the realities of what we are doing to our country to peoples computer screens..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about doing a website featuring them stuey..?..</p>
<p>(and local..!..)</p>
<p>y&#8217;know..!</p>
<p>..streaming vid of the cowshit pouring into/polluting our waterways (every day) could be quite an effective agit-prop tool..</p>
<p>bring the realities of what we are doing to our country to peoples computer screens..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: stuey</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37009</link>
		<dc:creator>stuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37009</guid>
		<description>"totally denuding tropical islands like Nauru in the process"

in the interests of accuracy in reporting, I must point out that Nauru is not totally denuded, only about 90%. 

If you have a look at Google Earth (lat=-0.536305435595, lon=166.927775593) you can see that there is a green and leafy area with some well spaced out housing around a lake in the south of the island that has been left alone while the rest of the island was mined ... clearly this is the enclave where the people who got rich selling the guano live.

According to the CIA World Factbook: ... intensive phosphate mining during the past 90 years - mainly by a UK, Australia, and NZ consortium - has left the central 90% of Nauru a wasteland and threatens limited remaining land resources.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/nr.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru

if anyone else has some Google Earth locations of environmental devastation I'd love to hear them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;totally denuding tropical islands like Nauru in the process&#8221;</p>
<p>in the interests of accuracy in reporting, I must point out that Nauru is not totally denuded, only about 90%. </p>
<p>If you have a look at Google Earth (lat=-0.536305435595, lon=166.927775593) you can see that there is a green and leafy area with some well spaced out housing around a lake in the south of the island that has been left alone while the rest of the island was mined &#8230; clearly this is the enclave where the people who got rich selling the guano live.</p>
<p>According to the CIA World Factbook: &#8230; intensive phosphate mining during the past 90 years - mainly by a UK, Australia, and NZ consortium - has left the central 90% of Nauru a wasteland and threatens limited remaining land resources.<br />
<a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/nr.html" >https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/nr.ht ml</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauru</a></p>
<p>if anyone else has some Google Earth locations of environmental devastation I&#8217;d love to hear them.</p>
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		<title>By: weedeater</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37007</link>
		<dc:creator>weedeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-37007</guid>
		<description>youre only fooling yourself sam buchannan and your statement is offencive, meat eaters are good at that (its a way of life). adn you are quite wrong because sentient  means to have feelings and you obviously dont have many.

Gonna make a joke about killing a cabbage or slicing up a potato next?  

then you ridicule hemp production as if its for peasants. the swiss grow it and dont have any stupid thc restriction (buying into prohibition 'common sense') such as the model Nandor and co brought into nz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>youre only fooling yourself sam buchannan and your statement is offencive, meat eaters are good at that (its a way of life). adn you are quite wrong because sentient  means to have feelings and you obviously dont have many.</p>
<p>Gonna make a joke about killing a cabbage or slicing up a potato next?  </p>
<p>then you ridicule hemp production as if its for peasants. the swiss grow it and dont have any stupid thc restriction (buying into prohibition &#8216;common sense&#8217;) such as the model Nandor and co brought into nz.</p>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-36969</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-36969</guid>
		<description>buchanan..a new bye-word for mindlessness..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buchanan..a new bye-word for mindlessness..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-36968</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-36968</guid>
		<description>joy..

"shine on..!..you crazy carnivore..!.."

eh..?

are you attempting to set a new benchmark in shortsightedness..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joy..</p>
<p>&#8220;shine on..!..you crazy carnivore..!..&#8221;</p>
<p>eh..?</p>
<p>are you attempting to set a new benchmark in shortsightedness..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-36966</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-36966</guid>
		<description>"You are what you eat" has always been a spiritual statement for me. Thus I am a sentient being, whereas 'weedeater' is a vegetable.

Good news on hemp production - now we can enjoy the prosperity and environmental sustainability of the other leading hemp producers - China and North Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You are what you eat&#8221; has always been a spiritual statement for me. Thus I am a sentient being, whereas &#8216;weedeater&#8217; is a vegetable.</p>
<p>Good news on hemp production - now we can enjoy the prosperity and environmental sustainability of the other leading hemp producers - China and North Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: McTap</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-36947</link>
		<dc:creator>McTap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2008/01/28/too-much-meat/#comment-36947</guid>
		<description>Step up to the times weedeater! new rules permitting hemp cultivation came into effect last august.  The Greens will continue to press for regulations to be further relaxed once a significant period has passed without incident. here is the link to the press release from MoH http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/hot/media/2006/NewHempRules.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Step up to the times weedeater! new rules permitting hemp cultivation came into effect last august.  The Greens will continue to press for regulations to be further relaxed once a significant period has passed without incident. here is the link to the press release from MoH <a href="http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/hot/media/2006/NewHempRules.htm" >http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/hot/media/2006/NewHempRules.htm</a></p>
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