Comments on: Super cheap solar http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/ hopping along the corridors of power Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:03:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: frog http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-51444 frog Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:07:18 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-51444 bigblukiwi - Lol! I forget the reason it was pulled, but it made sense to me at the time. I seem to recall that it was pulled by the manufacturer, not Ebay itself. anyway, as you say, it's in the time warp now. Let's just hope they relly do get the price down to $1 per Watt, and soon! bigblukiwi - Lol! I forget the reason it was pulled, but it made sense to me at the time. I seem to recall that it was pulled by the manufacturer, not Ebay itself. anyway, as you say, it’s in the time warp now. Let’s just hope they relly do get the price down to $1 per Watt, and soon!

]]> By: bigblukiwi http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-51442 bigblukiwi Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:04:11 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-51442 Sorry I didn't notice the date. My Mistake. It's my time warp that's in error. Doh !!!!! Sorry I didn’t notice the date. My Mistake. It’s my time warp that’s in error. Doh !!!!!

]]> By: bigblukiwi http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-51440 bigblukiwi Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:01:05 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-51440 The 'item'has been removed by E Bay. WHY ? has it been purchased or what? The ‘item’has been removed by E Bay. WHY ? has it been purchased or what?

]]> By: Kevyn http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-36509 Kevyn Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:09:07 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-36509 The same source reveals that the inventor of the Super Soaker water gun has invented a solar generator that can exceed 60% effidiency. http://www.physorg.com/news119107136.html The same source reveals that the inventor of the Super Soaker water gun has invented a solar generator that can exceed 60% effidiency.
http://www.physorg.com/news119107136.html

]]> By: ekstatek http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-36508 ekstatek Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:06:35 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-36508 It appears they have already made a great advance in battery storage with nano, 10 times the storage http://www.physorg.com/news117212815.html and what with everyone running air conditioners with global warming there will be very little chance in wasted energy with solar power. It appears they have already made a great advance in battery storage with nano, 10 times the storage http://www.physorg.com/news117212815.html and what with everyone running air conditioners with global warming there will be very little chance in wasted energy with solar power.

]]> By: Kevyn http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-35975 Kevyn Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:32:50 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-35975 Or, during the transition phase, when they are selling both petroleum and hydrogen they could simply replace Petroleum with Fuel. I'll leave the acronym to the imagination. Or, during the transition phase, when they are selling both petroleum and hydrogen they could simply replace Petroleum with Fuel. I’ll leave the acronym to the imagination.

]]> By: Trevor29 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-35974 Trevor29 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:14:44 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-35974 I think you mean that they would change their name to OHEC, pronounced O-Heck! Trevor. I think you mean that they would change their name to OHEC, pronounced O-Heck!

Trevor.

]]> By: Kevyn http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-35920 Kevyn Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:39:58 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-35920 Trevor, Quietly, I think we should all keep an eye on the newswires from Dubai. They seem to have the right combination of physical and financial resources and long term vision. Twenty years from now I wouldn't be surprised if they converted their oil pipelines to Europe to carry Europe's sewerage to the middle east where the water would be extracted by solar evaporation. The resulting sludge would be biodigesed to extract the methane and the remaining sludge would be sprayed on the desert fringes to provide a moist fertile base to revegetate and stop the deserts from spreading. The water evaporated from the sewerage would be electrolysed using solar power. The hydrogen would then be transported to Europe in the current natural gas pipelines. OPEC woud change it's name to HyPEC. Trevor, Quietly, I think we should all keep an eye on the newswires from Dubai. They seem to have the right combination of physical and financial resources and long term vision.

Twenty years from now I wouldn’t be surprised if they converted their oil pipelines to Europe to carry Europe’s sewerage to the middle east where the water would be extracted by solar evaporation. The resulting sludge would be biodigesed to extract the methane and the remaining sludge would be sprayed on the desert fringes to provide a moist fertile base to revegetate and stop the deserts from spreading. The water evaporated from the sewerage would be electrolysed using solar power. The hydrogen would then be transported to Europe in the current natural gas pipelines.
OPEC woud change it’s name to HyPEC.

]]> By: Trevor29 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-35898 Trevor29 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:46:23 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-35898 The dams do spill off water, but sometimes this is not because the lakes are full. Instead it is because they need to meet minimum water flow requirements and the generation from that water flow isn't needed. Typically this is during summer nights when the wind is blowing but demand is very low. Generation of hydrogen from excess electricity isn't that far fetched. The efficiency of the generation process is getting up to 78% (if I recall correctly), although there are greater losses converting hydrogen back to electricity. What many people don't know is that New Zealand already has at least two sites where hydrogen is already being generated - from natural gas (methane). One is the Petrochem plant in Taranaki which uses the hydrogen for ammonia production. The other is the oil refinery. I can see the day when it would make sense to install electroysis equipment at either or both of these sites. However right now it may make more sense to use excess electricity for heating at sites that currently use natural gas or coal, simply because the additional equipment would be cheaper to install and run than an electrolysis plant. Trevor. The dams do spill off water, but sometimes this is not because the lakes are full. Instead it is because they need to meet minimum water flow requirements and the generation from that water flow isn’t needed. Typically this is during summer nights when the wind is blowing but demand is very low.

Generation of hydrogen from excess electricity isn’t that far fetched. The efficiency of the generation process is getting up to 78% (if I recall correctly), although there are greater losses converting hydrogen back to electricity. What many people don’t know is that New Zealand already has at least two sites where hydrogen is already being generated - from natural gas (methane). One is the Petrochem plant in Taranaki which uses the hydrogen for ammonia production. The other is the oil refinery. I can see the day when it would make sense to install electroysis equipment at either or both of these sites. However right now it may make more sense to use excess electricity for heating at sites that currently use natural gas or coal, simply because the additional equipment would be cheaper to install and run than an electrolysis plant.

Trevor.

]]> By: Trevor29 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-35897 Trevor29 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:36:55 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/21/super-cheap-solar/#comment-35897 Good link Kevyn. Unfortunately a solar collector won't be all that effective in the land of the long white cloud, but it could be part of the answer to Australia's electricity generation needs. Trevor. Good link Kevyn. Unfortunately a solar collector won’t be all that effective in the land of the long white cloud, but it could be part of the answer to Australia’s electricity generation needs.

Trevor.

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