Comments on: The electoral finance rules http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/ hopping along the corridors of power Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:30:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: bjchip http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/#comment-35713 bjchip Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:21:31 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/#comment-35713 I think Zen, that if you leave out the "Bring Down the Government" part but say that the Waiting Lists are a blight on the reputation of NZ and an insult to civilized people everywhere you'd be fine. In other words, keep it out of the realm of electioneering and people can draw their own conclusions about which party is responsible for which policies. respectfully BJ I think Zen, that if you leave out the “Bring Down the Government” part but say that the Waiting Lists are a blight on the reputation of NZ and an insult to civilized people everywhere you’d be fine.

In other words, keep it out of the realm of electioneering and people can draw their own conclusions about which party is responsible for which policies.

respectfully
BJ

]]> By: ZenTiger http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/#comment-35710 ZenTiger Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:29:04 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/#comment-35710 <em>expressing .. opposition to the govt policy that would he says lead to funding cuts ... would not be touched by the Electoral Finance Act because they were clearly issue ads, not election ads. Tim’s statements on radio that he may run a campaign to bring down the govt were irrelevant to the interpretation of the ads.</em> and then: <em>Of course if Tim placed ads saying ‘bring down the govt’ then they would be election ads and have a $120,000 cap.</em> So, are you saying that I can run an uncapped series of ads saying "bring down the government over the issue of waiting lists" because now I'm speaking to an issue? Are you saying we can be confident of our interpretation and don't have to register with the government to speak our mind in this case? Or are you saying everyone needs to register on any issue, but they will not be capped as long as they mention an issue, and they needn't worry about the Greens calling for groups they don't like to have the EFB applied in that situation, whilst ignoring other cases? expressing .. opposition to the govt policy that would he says lead to funding cuts … would not be touched by the Electoral Finance Act because they were clearly issue ads, not election ads. Tim’s statements on radio that he may run a campaign to bring down the govt were irrelevant to the interpretation of the ads.

and then: Of course if Tim placed ads saying ‘bring down the govt’ then they would be election ads and have a $120,000 cap.

So, are you saying that I can run an uncapped series of ads saying “bring down the government over the issue of waiting lists” because now I’m speaking to an issue?

Are you saying we can be confident of our interpretation and don’t have to register with the government to speak our mind in this case? Or are you saying everyone needs to register on any issue, but they will not be capped as long as they mention an issue, and they needn’t worry about the Greens calling for groups they don’t like to have the EFB applied in that situation, whilst ignoring other cases?

]]> By: Russel http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/#comment-35562 Russel Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:17:21 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/#comment-35562 Insider the EC did not say that. I asked her about it specifically on another occasion. She just said it needed to be looked at, which is her job. You only need to register if you spend over $12,000 on election ads - not to speak your mind. Then you need to tell the EC who you are. You can only be refused if the name is offensive, likely to be confused with the name of a candidate or party, or likely to mislead the public. The aim is transparency. The last election showed a desperate need for transparency. Insider the EC did not say that. I asked her about it specifically on another occasion. She just said it needed to be looked at, which is her job.

You only need to register if you spend over $12,000 on election ads - not to speak your mind. Then you need to tell the EC who you are. You can only be refused if the name is offensive, likely to be confused with the name of a candidate or party, or likely to mislead the public. The aim is transparency. The last election showed a desperate need for transparency.

]]> By: insider http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/#comment-35548 insider Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:46:49 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/#comment-35548 YOu don't consider having to register your details in order to be able to speak your mind at all concerning no matter how unonerous the process might be? You are not concerned that some might not be allowed to register? YOu don’t consider having to register your details in order to be able to speak your mind at all concerning no matter how unonerous the process might be?

You are not concerned that some might not be allowed to register?

]]> By: insider http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/#comment-35547 insider Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:42:34 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/12/19/the-electoral-finance-rules/#comment-35547 Yet the EC considered the Crazy Car ads would be election ads... Yet the EC considered the Crazy Car ads would be election ads…

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