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	<title>Comments on: Kiwi scientists hold their own at the IPCC</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: even</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33857</link>
		<dc:creator>even</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33857</guid>
		<description>We're in more trouble than you can possibly imagine Kevyn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re in more trouble than you can possibly imagine Kevyn.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33856</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 12:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33856</guid>
		<description>even, does it include spelling and coherence too? If it does we're all in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even, does it include spelling and coherence too? If it does we&#8217;re all in trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33849</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33849</guid>
		<description>Even 

  The problem is that you are posting Jabberwocky.     Everyone else here is understandable... some are wrong, but they usually manage coherent thought... 

Maybe your meds are  interacting badly? 

BJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even </p>
<p>  The problem is that you are posting Jabberwocky.     Everyone else here is understandable&#8230; some are wrong, but they usually manage coherent thought&#8230; </p>
<p>Maybe your meds are  interacting badly? </p>
<p>BJ</p>
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		<title>By: even</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33844</link>
		<dc:creator>even</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 06:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33844</guid>
		<description>The thing you have lost Stuey, is the antithesis of chest thumping and associated hurling around of personal insults.

 Incidently another aspect of DSC is the promotion of knowledge and education as a strong uplifting tenant in society in of itself....this off course includes the ability to read and comprehend Stuey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing you have lost Stuey, is the antithesis of chest thumping and associated hurling around of personal insults.</p>
<p> Incidently another aspect of DSC is the promotion of knowledge and education as a strong uplifting tenant in society in of itself&#8230;.this off course includes the ability to read and comprehend Stuey.</p>
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		<title>By: stuey</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33827</link>
		<dc:creator>stuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33827</guid>
		<description>the only thing that is lost on me, is how you have the cheek to show your face around here when you've basically been exposed as either deluded or a liar.

the democrats clearly believe in AGW and believe in strong measures to combat AGW

you said they opposed AGW; that they thought measures to combat AGW were "madness".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only thing that is lost on me, is how you have the cheek to show your face around here when you&#8217;ve basically been exposed as either deluded or a liar.</p>
<p>the democrats clearly believe in AGW and believe in strong measures to combat AGW</p>
<p>you said they opposed AGW; that they thought measures to combat AGW were &#8220;madness&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: even</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33824</link>
		<dc:creator>even</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33824</guid>
		<description>I think they like me, so it wouldn't be a bad bet.

 But something that is lost on you, Democrats for Social Credit are not about promoting themselves as the be all and end all Stuey.

 DSC is about the promotion of a democratic society and an independent common wealth shared in by all, as such they are not about promoting marching in lock step, brandishing opposing views as deniers and patronage. And people's opinions do change.

 DSC did actually save my believes in the promise of democracy as it should be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they like me, so it wouldn&#8217;t be a bad bet.</p>
<p> But something that is lost on you, Democrats for Social Credit are not about promoting themselves as the be all and end all Stuey.</p>
<p> DSC is about the promotion of a democratic society and an independent common wealth shared in by all, as such they are not about promoting marching in lock step, brandishing opposing views as deniers and patronage. And people&#8217;s opinions do change.</p>
<p> DSC did actually save my believes in the promise of democracy as it should be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stuey</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33805</link>
		<dc:creator>stuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33805</guid>
		<description>I bet you the Democrats for Social Credit are really pleased to have you promoting them, even! :twisted:

I have a feeling that your views are not at all representative of their policy. I don't agree that the Democrats can be characterised as opposing AGW when there nothing like that on their website. e.g. &lt;a href="http://www.democrats.org.nz/Search.aspx?searchtext=climate+change&#038;SearchMode=phrase" rel="nofollow"&gt;search for climate change&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="http://www.democrats.org.nz/Search.aspx?searchtext=global+warming&#038;SearchMode=phrase" rel="nofollow"&gt;search for global warming&lt;/a&gt;.

In fact &lt;a href="http://www.democrats.org.nz/News/Articles/2007/Humanity%e2%80%99s-Greatest-Challenge.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;this article on their site&lt;/a&gt; is strongly pro-AGW and it says that we are not going nearly fast enough and we should be on a war footing to combat climate change.

&lt;blockquote&gt;"We should be working at war-time speed, but there seems to be a collective blindness. This blindness is severely hampered by ... sceptics, almost invariably supported by the fossil fuel industry, are doing irreparable damage ... by discouraging effective political legislation and action."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet you the Democrats for Social Credit are really pleased to have you promoting them, even! <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have a feeling that your views are not at all representative of their policy. I don&#8217;t agree that the Democrats can be characterised as opposing AGW when there nothing like that on their website. e.g. <a href="http://www.democrats.org.nz/Search.aspx?searchtext=climate+change&#038;SearchMode=phrase" >search for climate change</a> or <a href="http://www.democrats.org.nz/Search.aspx?searchtext=global+warming&#038;SearchMode=phrase" >search for global warming</a>.</p>
<p>In fact <a href="http://www.democrats.org.nz/News/Articles/2007/Humanity%e2%80%99s-Greatest-Challenge.aspx" >this article on their site</a> is strongly pro-AGW and it says that we are not going nearly fast enough and we should be on a war footing to combat climate change.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We should be working at war-time speed, but there seems to be a collective blindness. This blindness is severely hampered by &#8230; sceptics, almost invariably supported by the fossil fuel industry, are doing irreparable damage &#8230; by discouraging effective political legislation and action.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33792</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33792</guid>
		<description>Nothing like blowing your own trumpet and hiding said trumpet under a card board box?  Not quite sure what you are on about even and even harder to work out when you do not substatiate or reference anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing like blowing your own trumpet and hiding said trumpet under a card board box?  Not quite sure what you are on about even and even harder to work out when you do not substatiate or reference anything.</p>
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		<title>By: even</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33782</link>
		<dc:creator>even</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/11/21/kiwi-scientists-hold-their-own-at-the-ipcc/#comment-33782</guid>
		<description>DREAM ON PEOPLE, you have absolutely no idea or inkling of the real issue behind this, and i'm not gonna tell ye either.
 I've a pretty good record when it comes to stuff like this, some things when i believed in the greens n made available, have benefited them directly, you only have to open your eyes to see this, and just like then, also flew in the face of the so called truths of the conventional mass and scientific consensus.
 This goes past the fact of the major support set up for saving the planet from the big banking family interests and environmentalist foundations set up by world population eugenics groups(WWF being just one example) with their monuments and mission statements about reducing the world population by at least 80%.
 Beyond all that, there is even a FAR more horrifying and astoundingly wonderful truth behind the global warming and then global cooling phenonmenon which is going to happen, independent of co2 hype and the varying weather modification warfare employed to coerce the entire world into a new organising principle as Al Gore put it.
 You have absolutely no idea.

P.S. the only real opposition we have to this madness is the foundation for uncynical democracy as advocated here at this link:

 www.democrats.org.nz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DREAM ON PEOPLE, you have absolutely no idea or inkling of the real issue behind this, and i&#8217;m not gonna tell ye either.<br />
 I&#8217;ve a pretty good record when it comes to stuff like this, some things when i believed in the greens n made available, have benefited them directly, you only have to open your eyes to see this, and just like then, also flew in the face of the so called truths of the conventional mass and scientific consensus.<br />
 This goes past the fact of the major support set up for saving the planet from the big banking family interests and environmentalist foundations set up by world population eugenics groups(WWF being just one example) with their monuments and mission statements about reducing the world population by at least 80%.<br />
 Beyond all that, there is even a FAR more horrifying and astoundingly wonderful truth behind the global warming and then global cooling phenonmenon which is going to happen, independent of co2 hype and the varying weather modification warfare employed to coerce the entire world into a new organising principle as Al Gore put it.<br />
 You have absolutely no idea.</p>
<p>P.S. the only real opposition we have to this madness is the foundation for uncynical democracy as advocated here at this link:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.democrats.org.nz" >http://www.democrats.org.nz</a></p>
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