Comments on: Where is National on climate change? http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/ hopping along the corridors of power Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:50:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: BucolicOldSirHenry http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31621 BucolicOldSirHenry Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:58:26 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31621 More <a href="http://hot-topic.co.nz/2007/09/25/cranky-about-the-ets/">here</a>. More here.

]]> By: phil u http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31598 phil u Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:47:44 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31598 i hear the latest poll is out.. the greens are down 2%. any alarm bells ringing yet..? phil(whoar.co.nz) i hear the latest poll is out..

the greens are down 2%.

any alarm bells ringing yet..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: samiuela http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31594 samiuela Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:28:54 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31594 Ekstatek, You raise some valid points about the Kyoto protocol. Australia managed to negotiate itself a target which was greater than its 1990 emission levels (as opposed to most other developed countries which had to reduce their emissions). I'm not sure if Australia is going to meet its target, the last data I saw suggested it won't. In any case, Australia and the US have not ratified the agreement, so its a bit academic. The whole idea of the Kyoto protocol is that it would be the first step on the path to a solution, not the solution in itself. The fact that Australia won't even ratify Kyoto is (in my opinion) extremely selfish. The message they are giving the rest of the world is that "we value our economic development" over and above the welfare of the global environment. Its worse than that. If I was from Tuvalu (I'm not, but I've got family living in similarly low islands), and I turned up in a boat in Australia tomorrow because my home had been flooded by the rising sea level, Australia would probably immediately deport me to a prison camp, on Nauru or somewhere similar. They would then either try and return me to my flooded home, or send me to a third country. What sort of message does this give the rest of the world? At least New Zealand has agreed to take environmental refugees from Tuvalu (though the deal is not as good as it appears at first sight). OK ... I've just read the part of your post which says you want to shoot the climate refugees. I think I took your bait hook, line and sinker. Have a nice day :-) Ekstatek,

You raise some valid points about the Kyoto protocol. Australia managed to negotiate itself a target which was greater than its 1990 emission levels (as opposed to most other developed countries which had to reduce their emissions). I’m not sure if Australia is going to meet its target, the last data I saw suggested it won’t. In any case, Australia and the US have not ratified the agreement, so its a bit academic. The whole idea of the Kyoto protocol is that it would be the first step on the path to a solution, not the solution in itself.

The fact that Australia won’t even ratify Kyoto is (in my opinion) extremely selfish. The message they are giving the rest of the world is that “we value our economic development” over and above the welfare of the global environment. Its worse than that. If I was from Tuvalu (I’m not, but I’ve got family living in similarly low islands), and I turned up in a boat in Australia tomorrow because my home had been flooded by the rising sea level, Australia would probably immediately deport me to a prison camp, on Nauru or somewhere similar. They would then either try and return me to my flooded home, or send me to a third country. What sort of message does this give the rest of the world? At least New Zealand has agreed to take environmental refugees from Tuvalu (though the deal is not as good as it appears at first sight).

OK … I’ve just read the part of your post which says you want to shoot the climate refugees. I think I took your bait hook, line and sinker.

Have a nice day :-)

]]> By: jh http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31592 jh Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:01:16 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31592 The question is which party is the worst, not which is the best. National represents the "doing very well don't spoil the party crowd", and the money (I suspect comes from property developers with homes to fill (and others). I don't trust Bill English. Labour as ekstatek says. The Greens are an ingrown toenail party dominated by people who don't think like the rest of us. :( jh The question is which party is the worst, not which is the best. National represents the “doing very well don’t spoil the party crowd”, and the money (I suspect comes from property developers with homes to fill (and others). I don’t trust Bill English. Labour as ekstatek says. The Greens are an ingrown toenail party dominated by people who don’t think like the rest of us. :(
jh

]]> By: ekstatek http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31588 ekstatek Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:05:11 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31588 It all doesn't matter anyway we are doomed, if australia is meeting its kyoto target (which according to Al Gore it is) then the kyoto is flawed so drastically its not worth the carbon used to print it. As for the "BlueGreen" national party, its a joke they will simply turn up the air conditioning when it gets too hot. Only reason i would vote for them is because if labour gets in again they will YET MORE NOTHING to help the situation, maybe 3 years in out or government will wake them up to the fact that we vote them in to LEAD this country not pass pet project bills about homo-marriages and create more taxes to pay for the ever expanding public service, which wastes time and money with such causes as arkmed zawheee (Wipes spittle from computer screeN) Anyway as i was saying the WORLD is wasting to much time Global Climate change is here and its gonna get worse so stock your cupboards load your gun cause if its not the weather its the climate refugees which are gonna get ya! It all doesn’t matter anyway we are doomed, if australia is meeting its kyoto target (which according to Al Gore it is) then the kyoto is flawed so drastically its not worth the carbon used to print it.
As for the “BlueGreen” national party, its a joke they will simply turn up the air conditioning when it gets too hot. Only reason i would vote for them is because if labour gets in again they will YET MORE NOTHING to help the situation, maybe 3 years in out or government will wake them up to the fact that we vote them in to LEAD this country not pass pet project bills about homo-marriages and create more taxes to pay for the ever expanding public service, which wastes time and money with such causes as arkmed zawheee (Wipes spittle from computer screeN)
Anyway as i was saying the WORLD is wasting to much time Global Climate change is here and its gonna get worse so stock your cupboards load your gun cause if its not the weather its the climate refugees which are gonna get ya!

]]> By: Edge http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31582 Edge Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:18:56 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31582 That wasn't a press release. It was "Newsworthy" Richard Worth's weekly newsletter. That wasn’t a press release.

It was “Newsworthy” Richard Worth’s weekly newsletter.

]]> By: peterquixote http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31577 peterquixote Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:05:36 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31577 good post fwwog, it like jeanette saying them NAT getting real, thems slow but catch up soon, i been telling yous fwwog, go to NAT HQ and talk, NAT 45% plus fwoogs mn things, good post fwwog,
it like jeanette saying them NAT getting real,
thems slow but catch up soon,
i been telling yous fwwog, go to NAT HQ and talk,
NAT 45% plus fwoogs mn things,

]]> By: big bro http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31568 big bro Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:45:09 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31568 I am glad that somebody from the Nat's is prepared to be up front about this global warming con. You should be happy about this Russ, it means you do not have to go on pretending that you will consider working with the Nat's after the next election. I am glad that somebody from the Nat’s is prepared to be up front about this global warming con.

You should be happy about this Russ, it means you do not have to go on pretending that you will consider working with the Nat’s after the next election.

]]> By: lyndon http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31566 lyndon Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:28:25 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/09/24/where-is-national-on-climate-change/#comment-31566 Having had a flip through The Standard... Did Jacqui Dean really table the global temperature vs lack of pirates graph? Pastafari! Having had a flip through The Standard… Did Jacqui Dean really table the global temperature vs lack of pirates graph?

Pastafari!

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