I agree that other related issues definitely show a bit of a civil-liberties-come-first bias and some “issues” (shall we say) with police .

This one however, has a real serious side to it. Which isn’t reflected in THIS message

Gerrit… you would avoid the lead pollution problem by using depleted uranium slugs… right?

respectfully
BJ

A mini gatling gun (like those on the apache attack helicopter) mounted under the front bumper of a patrol car should see an instant stop to any runaway.

One burst and no worries about court cases, fines, reoffending, etc.

Colateral damage may be a problem, but what the heck, one offender less and one car scrapped as well. Solves the world over crowding problem and carbon emmisions from cars.

JH

I am not sure that I agree that Frog and the rest of us are ā€œanti policeā€?. What causes you to conclude that? Certainly there is no indication of it in this post. The issue alluded to in the post is actually a very difficult one.
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By Frog and Co I didn’t mean everybody…… but despite best attempts anyone can see a divide in the Greens. As for anti police:
Anti Taser
Pro Angela Davis
Against shackling prisoners
(and a lot more I can’t think of right now)
Admittedly there is no point in having a knee jerk reaction to law and order issues but the greens seem to be well and truly on the side of civil liberties and (I would say) see the perpetrators of crime as victims of an oppressive society etc, etc.
[I would like to see a system such as Japans where prisoners in the toughest prisons march> Left right, left, right
http://www.documen.tv/asset/Japan_form_inside_film.html
http://www.jameswebb.com/articles/parade/japanprison.htm
jh

The idea as I proposed would leave the police to pursue closely until the vehicle runs a trap. A more relaxed pursuit would then continue. Much as the situations with the helicopters, except quieter and less dramatic.

They’d have to run the trap and THEN carjack someone, giving a new crime in an environment of converging police. Possible to do, but I don’t think they’d have the time… and carjacking requires real violence. Most auto thieves aren’t so inclined and I don’t know about everyone else here but they’d not see the light of day for a lonnnggg time if I were passing sentence.

Now if they were clever they could FAKE a carjacking… setting it up ahead of time.

It is always up to the police to make the call and 20-20 hindsight is not a reasonable standard by which to judge that call.

respectfully
BJ

For example, swapping cars via a car jacking anywhere BUT an intersection.

We can augment the process with technology, which gives Police more options, but Police need the ability to make the call. They are trained to do this now.

The message that the police will ignore crime providing the severity of the crime is increased is a dangerous message.

I am not sure that I agree that Frog and the rest of us are “anti police”. What causes you to conclude that? Certainly there is no indication of it in this post. The issue alluded to in the post is actually a very difficult one.

On the more general topic of “police” I still don’t think that you have a real point. The Green Party doesn’t like misuse of police powers, but that is not a matter of disliking police themselves, or claiming that they are unneeded. That has to do with bad laws being passed which subsequently require the police to do things that are contrary to green principles.

True, there are a couple of people in the party who are more reflexive than reflective on this topic (and I wouldn’t be averse to having a few words with them about their effect on the party and its electoral chances), but the party as a whole does not (I think), have this mindset.

respectfully
BJ

This hasn’t been done anywhere.

respectfully
BJ

Sounds like a job Mitsubishi Electric’s Auto Incident Recording System.
http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/04mar/07.htm

That’s why, given our limited set of roads and intersections I would opt for a system of cameras at the intersections and some mobile units with the police being able to activate them when a pursuit begins. The offender will drive through a covered intersection, and so is “caught” on the camera. With the cameras activated ONLY during the pursuits we’d not be wasting a lot of high-res video and effort on empty streets and boring falling leaves.

The result would be similar to being able to put a helicopter on top of them, except that you’d actually get the video of the driver and the license plate quite clearly. Which makes it better than the Helicopter.

No drama. No long high-speed pursuits.

Nobody has ever done it before.

respectfully
BJ