I never called you gullible, however you do show your political leanings when you slag off Fox news.
I feel the same about TV 3 News and in particular Socialism (Communism) at seven with Comrade John Campbell, how anybody could consider those shows to be fair and balanced is beyond me.

TV3 and Campbell should at least be honest about their agenda, Fox could never be accused of hiding theirs

is it not the accepted custom when doing this to enclose those those words in speech marks..

or to credit the author..?

(in particular i’m referring to your ‘agro-fuel’ comment..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

Here is an example for you to mull over.

The AA runs the following advert for new members.

“Join the AA and help us fight to get a new bridge at Kopu”

The current government position is that a new bridge at Kopu is not required (ask the local Green MP, she is against a new bridge).

Now is this an advert for new members or an electioneering statement from a third party?

Oh yes, the proposed bill is going to be fun!

Wrong. It bans electioneering, not advertising. Just ask yourself though who is going to decide the difference beween the two? Who will settle the disputes? By which time any suspect electioneering masquarading as advertising will have been published and seen. The resulting courtcase will keep that bit of electioneering in the news right up to election time. God, the advertising people are going to love this new bill.

“Advertising people will just have to get proper jobs for a year.”

Yep, as state servants deciding what is electioneering and what is advertising. Like we need more unproductive state servents?

“Actually, you have no more or less right than anyone else to comment on whether the Iraq war was a huge mistake. Everyone, from Big Bro to the most anti-war person, has a right to free speech. Coming from the land where they _claim_ liberty, freedom etc is so important, you should know this.”

Unless it is an election year in New Zealand and the current government’s policy was anti war. Then your right to free speech would be limited, under the proposed Electoral Finance Reform Bill, to an expenditure ceiling.

You made the comment:

“I am not an American hater. I *am* an American. That should give me more right than you to say whether the Iraq war was a huge mistake. Which it was and is.”

Actually, you have no more or less right than anyone else to comment on whether the Iraq war was a huge mistake. Everyone, from Big Bro to the most anti-war person, has a right to free speech. Coming from the land where they _claim_ liberty, freedom etc is so important, you should know this.

Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki asked for 400,000 and Rumsfeld and Cheney made him go. Powell made the point as well, but was ignored.

We have half that number now, and reservists 55 years old are being called up. The war in Afghanistan is suffering for lack of manpower and there are shortages throughout the supply train.

In the meantime pallets of dead presidents are being stolen… a half billion US $ in one theft and more pallets are being delivered to Halliburton every day.

As much as I agree that the US should clean up its own mess, I do not think it can. I observed at the time of the “mission accomplished” lie, that it was bad enough they were doing it, but even worse that they were too inept to do it correctly. Which comes of having people with no war or defense experience in every position of power in the entire Cabal. I knew what would happen…. but Cheney knew too. Evidence above, of his speech back in first Iraq.

The thing is that Cheney knew what he was doing every step of the way, and he knew people were going to die because of things he decided were necessary for the well being of his buddies… and he needs to be called the evil, immoral, lying b@st@rd that he is except that even saying something that he construes as argumentative can get you slammed into the jailhouse and questioned for a day or two.

respectfully
BJ