Comments on: Angela Davis in Aotearoa http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/ hopping along the corridors of power Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:35:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Good Therapy http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-53205 Good Therapy Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:12:28 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-53205 There needs to be something done about our prisons. Before long we'll have more people in prisons in the US than we have people to support the prisoners. What Then?? Whatever the powers to be have been doing has not been working and a change needs to be made. It is almost laughable if it wasn't so pathetic to know that when a prisoner gets out of jail for a small crime and does not have a family or friend willing and/or able to be the right kind of support. They have no one to turn to for help; nor can they qualify food stamps, housing and getting a job is non existent. Wonder why so many end back up in prison???? There needs to be something done about our prisons. Before long we’ll have more people in prisons in the US than we have people to support the prisoners. What Then?? Whatever the powers to be have been doing has not been working and a change needs to be made. It is almost laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic to know that when a prisoner gets out of jail for a small crime and does not have a family or friend willing and/or able to be the right kind of support. They have no one to turn to for help; nor can they qualify food stamps, housing and getting a job is non existent. Wonder why so many end back up in prison????

]]> By: bjchip http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-29037 bjchip Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:02:06 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-29037 JH I think that even Duncan agrees, this isn't how actual Capitalism is supposed to work. A little more on how the slow-motion train wreck is progressing. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/07/02/ccview102.xml JH

I think that even Duncan agrees, this isn’t how actual Capitalism is supposed to work. A little more on how the slow-motion train wreck is progressing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/07/02/ccvi ew102.xml

]]> By: jh http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28983 jh Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:32:45 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28983 The issue isn't just the issues, but the participants in the debate and the degree to which their behavior is hard-wired, subsequent level of motivation, and ascendancy to prominent position (as in high up a list). jh The issue isn’t just the issues, but the participants in the debate and the degree to which their behavior is hard-wired, subsequent level of motivation, and ascendancy to prominent position (as in high up a list).
jh

]]> By: jh http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28982 jh Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:28:08 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28982 the times may justify what some people say BJ, but we have/ had people here who sang the praises of North Korea, Pol Pot, Albania, when they should have known better. jh the times may justify what some people say BJ, but we have/ had people here who sang the praises of North Korea, Pol Pot, Albania, when they should have known better.
jh

]]> By: jh http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28981 jh Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:23:01 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28981 After fine weather we have a storm... We have to factor the hordes of newly wealthy in the east .. ? Things are settling but things aren't bad until there is a paradigm shift, that hasn't happened yet. People perceive a gushing volcano of wealth in the world. While their are contrarian economists there doesn't seem much alarm from the mainstream??? I think we live in a madhouse "growth, growth, growth". I think we need to touch base with reality.... What if: What if pirates prevented any overseas trade and we were completely isolated.. how would we survive.. there's an optimal state and then there's entropy.. jh After fine weather we have a storm…

We have to factor the hordes of newly wealthy in the east .. ?

Things are settling but things aren’t bad until there is a paradigm shift, that hasn’t happened yet. People perceive a gushing volcano of wealth in the world.

While their are contrarian economists there doesn’t seem much alarm from the mainstream???

I think we live in a madhouse “growth, growth, growth”. I think we need to touch base with reality…. What if: What if pirates prevented any overseas trade and we were completely isolated.. how would we survive.. there’s an optimal state and then there’s entropy..
jh

]]> By: bjchip http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28980 bjchip Wed, 04 Jul 2007 20:10:19 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28980 Duncan That's the more reasonable position I would've expected to hear from you and I have no particular argument with it except that you need to consider the tenor of the times. Dunno what she'd say about it today. Nobody asks her about that either.... but I am of that era, I know how it felt to be on campus hearing about the shootings at Kent State. Marching on Washington. All of it. It wasn't much like a holiday, it was a lot more like a revolution in the making, but without the necessary organization. We NEEDED the revolution, and didn't get it. We were involved in our first "illegal" war. So I refrain from judging her on things that haven't been discussed recently and tend to go easy on her about ancient history. I was there too. Our prison statistics and systematic incarceration is a mess. She points to the mess.... I don't care what else she did, I still have to acknowledge the mess. respectfully BJ Duncan

That’s the more reasonable position I would’ve expected to hear from you and I have no particular argument with it except that you need to consider the tenor of the times. Dunno what she’d say about it today. Nobody asks her about that either…. but I am of that era, I know how it felt to be on campus hearing about the shootings at Kent State. Marching on Washington. All of it.

It wasn’t much like a holiday, it was a lot more like a revolution in the making, but without the necessary organization. We NEEDED the revolution, and didn’t get it. We were involved in our first “illegal” war.

So I refrain from judging her on things that haven’t been discussed recently and tend to go easy on her about ancient history. I was there too.

Our prison statistics and systematic incarceration is a mess. She points to the mess…. I don’t care what else she did, I still have to acknowledge the mess.

respectfully
BJ

]]> By: bjchip http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28971 bjchip Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:59:45 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28971 http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070701/OPINION/707010320/1004 http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=13286&z=3&p= http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118308383764052523.html?mod=mkts_main_todays_mkts_tac http://www.counterpunch.org/farago06302007.html <i> Bear Stearns Investors Await Tally on Losses By E.S. BROWNING Wall Street Journal, July 2, 2007; Page C3 Investors in two Bear Stearns hedge funds will have to wait until as late as July 16 to learn how much money they have lost. The Wall Street firm has had difficulty calculating the funds' fair value, apparently because many of the mortgage-related securities they hold are thinly traded and the market for them has been volatile... ... net asset values as of May 31 would be calculated "on or before July 16," and that it would make its best effort to calculate an estimate of the June 30 value of the two funds by the same time.... Investors are watching the process closely because they believe that other hedge funds also are holding thinly traded mortgage-related securities, and they want to see how far Bear thinks their value has fallen.</i> http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070701/OPINIO N/707010320/1004

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=13286&z=3&p=

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118308383764052523.html?mod=mkts_main_ todays_mkts_tac

http://www.counterpunch.org/farago06302007.html


Bear Stearns Investors Await Tally on Losses
By E.S. BROWNING
Wall Street Journal, July 2, 2007; Page C3

Investors in two Bear Stearns hedge funds will have to wait until as late as July 16 to learn how much money they have lost.

The Wall Street firm has had difficulty calculating the funds’ fair value, apparently because many of the mortgage-related securities they hold are thinly traded and the market for them has been volatile…

… net asset values as of May 31 would be calculated “on or before July 16,” and that it would make its best effort to calculate an estimate of the June 30 value of the two funds by the same time….

Investors are watching the process closely because they believe that other hedge funds also are holding thinly traded mortgage-related securities, and they want to see how far Bear thinks their value has fallen.

]]> By: jh http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28969 jh Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:24:43 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28969 Found this: http://nominister.blogspot.com/2007/07/bridge-too-far.html Found this:

http://nominister.blogspot.com/2007/07/bridge-too-far.html

]]> By: jh http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28968 jh Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:15:36 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28968 We have been hearing that the US housing market will collapse and (I forget how it goes...) US will stop consuming (buying from China)... China is big enough to be its own world economy??? Dollar collapses and, and and.... Where are we at on that one?? We have been hearing that the US housing market will collapse and (I forget how it goes…) US will stop consuming (buying from China)… China is big enough to be its own world economy??? Dollar collapses and, and and…. Where are we at on that one??

]]> By: Duncan Bayne http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28965 Duncan Bayne Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:57:31 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/27/angela-davis-in-aotearoa/#comment-28965 bj, I've already judged her, on the basis that she stood as a candidate for the Communist Party. That alone is morally equivalent to running for any other totalitarian party - and as far as I'm aware, she hasn't renounced her views. She was no innocent, duped supporter, she was an active candidate. The issue of her supporting totalitarian Communist states jailing dissidents - reported by Solzhenitsyn no less - is just another nail in the coffin, so to speak. bj,

I’ve already judged her, on the basis that she stood as a candidate for the Communist Party. That alone is morally equivalent to running for any other totalitarian party - and as far as I’m aware, she hasn’t renounced her views. She was no innocent, duped supporter, she was an active candidate.

The issue of her supporting totalitarian Communist states jailing dissidents - reported by Solzhenitsyn no less - is just another nail in the coffin, so to speak.

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