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	<title>Comments on: plastic bag peril</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: netpromoguy</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-46379</link>
		<dc:creator>netpromoguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-46379</guid>
		<description>I’m glad someone thought this story was worthy of a post. In my opinion the best thing we should do is to ban the plastic shopping bags at all. There is alternatives and I’m pretty sure once the plastic bags is banned manufacturers will come with brilliant ideas. For example, plastic shopping bags are illegal in South Africa anyway because of environmental reasons and nothing happens so why we can’t banned it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m glad someone thought this story was worthy of a post. In my opinion the best thing we should do is to ban the plastic shopping bags at all. There is alternatives and I’m pretty sure once the plastic bags is banned manufacturers will come with brilliant ideas. For example, plastic shopping bags are illegal in South Africa anyway because of environmental reasons and nothing happens so why we can’t banned it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jute Bags</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-37696</link>
		<dc:creator>Jute Bags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-37696</guid>
		<description>@ecomonkey

Very true, if branded eco-friendly bags were given away like the plastic ones I think everyone would benefit. unfortunatly the markets aren't prepared to do that, yet. Let’s just hope public pressure forces their hand, if one chain were to do this and shopper started making the point with their wallets, changing where they shop, every chain going would give free branded eco-friendly bags out very quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ecomonkey</p>
<p>Very true, if branded eco-friendly bags were given away like the plastic ones I think everyone would benefit. unfortunatly the markets aren&#8217;t prepared to do that, yet. Let’s just hope public pressure forces their hand, if one chain were to do this and shopper started making the point with their wallets, changing where they shop, every chain going would give free branded eco-friendly bags out very quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-30465</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-30465</guid>
		<description>ecomonkey - Paknsave do it because it's a good marketing gimmick and reduces their wages bill. All the other supermarkets redesigned their checkouts and eliminated their bag-packers. Don't worry, when the price of plastic begins to affect their bottom lines they'll start charging, then you won't find yourself in the minority any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ecomonkey - Paknsave do it because it&#8217;s a good marketing gimmick and reduces their wages bill. All the other supermarkets redesigned their checkouts and eliminated their bag-packers. Don&#8217;t worry, when the price of plastic begins to affect their bottom lines they&#8217;ll start charging, then you won&#8217;t find yourself in the minority any more.</p>
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		<title>By: ecomonkey</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-30463</link>
		<dc:creator>ecomonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-30463</guid>
		<description>It often infuriates me that supermarkets charge for the more reusable bags and give plastic ones away free! Surely it would make sense to reverse this or at least reward customers for bringing their own or using the more eco bags. 

The very least supermarkets could do is to train checkout staff to not just assume every customer wants to use plastic and automatically pack our shopping in plastic. The amount of odd looks we get from staff for bringing our own bags and packing them ourselves is incredible!

An easy way to cut down on the appalling plastic bag waste would be for all supermarkets (and other stores) to follow PaknSave's example and simply not supply plastic bags - it's not rocket science!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It often infuriates me that supermarkets charge for the more reusable bags and give plastic ones away free! Surely it would make sense to reverse this or at least reward customers for bringing their own or using the more eco bags. </p>
<p>The very least supermarkets could do is to train checkout staff to not just assume every customer wants to use plastic and automatically pack our shopping in plastic. The amount of odd looks we get from staff for bringing our own bags and packing them ourselves is incredible!</p>
<p>An easy way to cut down on the appalling plastic bag waste would be for all supermarkets (and other stores) to follow PaknSave&#8217;s example and simply not supply plastic bags - it&#8217;s not rocket science!</p>
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		<title>By: Prim</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28930</link>
		<dc:creator>Prim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28930</guid>
		<description>I have been taking my own bags to supermarkets for years.  Going to Pak'N Save is often a nice experience when I see many people using bags that they have brought along.  At other supermarkets, it seems that more and more people are using green material bags, which is great.  

It seems to me that the material at the "earlier in the year" link may be making some useful points, e.g. around food waste.  It may identify some further issues around the use of plastic.  

I hope that Nandor's Waste Minimisation (Solids) Bill will make a good and substantial difference "on the ground" in NZ.  We individuals can do a lot now, in any case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been taking my own bags to supermarkets for years.  Going to Pak&#8217;N Save is often a nice experience when I see many people using bags that they have brought along.  At other supermarkets, it seems that more and more people are using green material bags, which is great.  </p>
<p>It seems to me that the material at the &#8220;earlier in the year&#8221; link may be making some useful points, e.g. around food waste.  It may identify some further issues around the use of plastic.  </p>
<p>I hope that Nandor&#8217;s Waste Minimisation (Solids) Bill will make a good and substantial difference &#8220;on the ground&#8221; in NZ.  We individuals can do a lot now, in any case.</p>
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		<title>By: Sapient</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28753</link>
		<dc:creator>Sapient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28753</guid>
		<description>our supermarket isint charging for plastic bags, we are starting to charge 99 cents for material ones though. we have always been pretty low in plastic bag use at our new worlds though, the owner of the store still complains at christmas when more bags are used, though thats just cause it costs him more :P
supermarkets dont fire them every 3 months, they tend to leave after afew weeks, i know on checkout at our store at one point we were loosing the majority of new staff within a month and had old ones leaving also, the staff quality decreases very rapidly :P

Sapient</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our supermarket isint charging for plastic bags, we are starting to charge 99 cents for material ones though. we have always been pretty low in plastic bag use at our new worlds though, the owner of the store still complains at christmas when more bags are used, though thats just cause it costs him more <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
supermarkets dont fire them every 3 months, they tend to leave after afew weeks, i know on checkout at our store at one point we were loosing the majority of new staff within a month and had old ones leaving also, the staff quality decreases very rapidly <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sapient</p>
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		<title>By: Kevyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28750</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28750</guid>
		<description>Of course if branded plastic bags were still an insignificant expense the supermarkets wouldn't be colluding and conspiring to start charging customers for what has been a free service.

Its not really a victory for the GP so much as a victory for freemarket greenies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course if branded plastic bags were still an insignificant expense the supermarkets wouldn&#8217;t be colluding and conspiring to start charging customers for what has been a free service.</p>
<p>Its not really a victory for the GP so much as a victory for freemarket greenies.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28743</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28743</guid>
		<description>Yeah, I'm getting out-of-breath from training every check-out operator I meet, to put my stuff in the bags I supply, which is why they go on the counter in front of the goods I'm purchasing... *sigh*. Kids these days...

'Course it would help if the supermarket didn't sack them all every 3 months or so, then there might be some institutional memory building up in the workforce there. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m getting out-of-breath from training every check-out operator I meet, to put my stuff in the bags I supply, which is why they go on the counter in front of the goods I&#8217;m purchasing&#8230; *sigh*. Kids these days&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8216;Course it would help if the supermarket didn&#8217;t sack them all every 3 months or so, then there might be some institutional memory building up in the workforce there. <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: uk_kiwi</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28736</link>
		<dc:creator>uk_kiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28736</guid>
		<description>Ah, the old plastic bag menace. While I suppose every little bit counts, and it is disappointing to hear about the plastic pollution, at least plastic bags do break down eventually in sunlight.

The ultimate answer, as far as I'm concerned is incineration. We don't seem to be able to reduce, reuse or recycle, so at least we can get the embodied energy back and minimise the waste products without filling in a valley somewhere.

It's like the landfill gas projects but without the landfill :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the old plastic bag menace. While I suppose every little bit counts, and it is disappointing to hear about the plastic pollution, at least plastic bags do break down eventually in sunlight.</p>
<p>The ultimate answer, as far as I&#8217;m concerned is incineration. We don&#8217;t seem to be able to reduce, reuse or recycle, so at least we can get the embodied energy back and minimise the waste products without filling in a valley somewhere.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the landfill gas projects but without the landfill <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: kahikatea</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28701</link>
		<dc:creator>kahikatea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/26/plastic-bag-peril/#comment-28701</guid>
		<description>Woolworths Kilbirnie are diligent about asking if I want a bag, if I buy three items or fewer. But the moment I have four items, even if they're really smal ones, they put them in a bag if I'm not quick enough in telling them not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woolworths Kilbirnie are diligent about asking if I want a bag, if I buy three items or fewer. But the moment I have four items, even if they&#8217;re really smal ones, they put them in a bag if I&#8217;m not quick enough in telling them not to.</p>
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