Comments on: Dalai lama visits Green caucus http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/ hopping along the corridors of power Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:51:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Sam Buchanan http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28516 Sam Buchanan Fri, 22 Jun 2007 05:06:33 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28516 Having said nasty things about his Dailyness, I'd like to stress that I'd take him and his lamas over the Chinese 'communists' and their cadres any day. The old days of Lamic rule in tibet seemed to at least have the advantage that the government was pretty inneffectual much of the time. Having said nasty things about his Dailyness, I’d like to stress that I’d take him and his lamas over the Chinese ‘communists’ and their cadres any day. The old days of Lamic rule in tibet seemed to at least have the advantage that the government was pretty inneffectual much of the time.

]]> By: Sapient http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28513 Sapient Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:32:41 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28513 as i have said in several other posts, will someone acculy do some research on the current dalai lama? and particuly his relivance to the history of tibet? what he preaches is good, great in my opinion, but who he realy is and what he realy stands for and embodies is the most gross defilement of human rights the world has seen in the last few hundred years, far surpassing the genocides and massacres, 98 percent of the population being enslaved by the other 2 percent, the dalai lama being the spiritual head of the lamists. lamisim is as much buddhism as stalanist russia and post-mao china are communist, perverted and twisted, only superficaly bearing any resemblance. there was a good article i read on it awhile back, i think it was called 'when the dalai lama ruled: hell on earth', part of a series on tibet. as i said, what he teaches is great. but what he embodies and stands for is probaly the closist thing to evil that exists, stop holding him up as some human rights advocate, do so research. Sapient as i have said in several other posts, will someone acculy do some research on the current dalai lama? and particuly his relivance to the history of tibet?
what he preaches is good, great in my opinion, but who he realy is and what he realy stands for and embodies is the most gross defilement of human rights the world has seen in the last few hundred years, far surpassing the genocides and massacres, 98 percent of the population being enslaved by the other 2 percent, the dalai lama being the spiritual head of the lamists. lamisim is as much buddhism as stalanist russia and post-mao china are communist, perverted and twisted, only superficaly bearing any resemblance.
there was a good article i read on it awhile back, i think it was called ‘when the dalai lama ruled: hell on earth’, part of a series on tibet.

as i said, what he teaches is great. but what he embodies and stands for is probaly the closist thing to evil that exists, stop holding him up as some human rights advocate, do so research.

Sapient

]]> By: davey http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28508 davey Fri, 22 Jun 2007 02:58:49 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28508 I believe the DL said that homosexuality in and of itself is not wrong, just homosexual acts are. I believe the DL said that homosexuality in and of itself is not wrong, just homosexual acts are.

]]> By: Sam Buchanan http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28503 Sam Buchanan Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:56:10 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28503 OK how about "would-be theocracies"? Oh, yeah, Theravada Buddhism hasn't been too hot on the rights of women and gays either, although active persecution seems to be opposed since karma's going to get them anyway. OK how about “would-be theocracies”?

Oh, yeah, Theravada Buddhism hasn’t been too hot on the rights of women and gays either, although active persecution seems to be opposed since karma’s going to get them anyway.

]]> By: katie http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28419 katie Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:12:37 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28419 Well said, Toad. One might also add, "if she is an adult female, or a child, one can abuse and persecute these properties of husbands/fathers/brothers, at any time one considers they have transgressed one's own arbitrary version of "God's" laws." I have never seen any thing equal to that in the teachings of compassion and doing no harm (ahimsa) that the Dalai Lama promulgates. Sam, I don't think the Tibetan Lama's still count as a theocracy while China denies them access to their monasteries/palaces in Tibet. Debatable point, though, I'd agree. ;-) Om Shanti to all who follow the path of compassion. Well said, Toad.

One might also add, “if she is an adult female, or a child, one can abuse and persecute these properties of husbands/fathers/brothers, at any time one considers they have transgressed one’s own arbitrary version of “God’s” laws.”

I have never seen any thing equal to that in the teachings of compassion and doing no harm (ahimsa) that the Dalai Lama promulgates.

Sam, I don’t think the Tibetan Lama’s still count as a theocracy while China denies them access to their monasteries/palaces in Tibet. Debatable point, though, I’d agree. ;-)

Om Shanti to all who follow the path of compassion.

]]> By: toad http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28387 toad Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:09:09 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28387 big bro said: <i>...the man say things like “be kind to your neighbourâ€? and they all hail him as some kind of messiah. If that is what they need in their life they should go along and see Bishop Tamaki...</i> Think the difference is that 'Bishop' Tamaki says "be kind to you neighbour, unless he is queer, in which case, deny him his human rights and persecute him". big bro said: …the man say things like “be kind to your neighbourâ€? and they all hail him as some kind of messiah. If that is what they need in their life they should go along and see Bishop Tamaki…

Think the difference is that ‘Bishop’ Tamaki says “be kind to you neighbour, unless he is queer, in which case, deny him his human rights and persecute him”.

]]> By: Sam Buchanan http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28386 Sam Buchanan Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:01:36 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28386 Losing out on a free trade deal with China would be like shooting ourselves in the foot and missing. Can't say I'm too keen on theocracies, whatever their shade, but if Helen Clark meeting the Dalai Lama puts the trade deal on ice, I'm all for the two moving in together. And actually, BB, I don't think the boss monk's appeal is particularly to leftists, he seems to have fans from all over the political spectrum. Losing out on a free trade deal with China would be like shooting ourselves in the foot and missing.

Can’t say I’m too keen on theocracies, whatever their shade, but if Helen Clark meeting the Dalai Lama puts the trade deal on ice, I’m all for the two moving in together.

And actually, BB, I don’t think the boss monk’s appeal is particularly to leftists, he seems to have fans from all over the political spectrum.

]]> By: phil u http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28385 phil u Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:56:27 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28385 some greens..and the climate-change denial trolls.. could be interested in this news-story.. http://environment.independent.co.uk/climate_change/article2675747.ece phil(whoar.co.nz) some greens..and the climate-change denial trolls..

could be interested in this news-story..

http://environment.independent.co.uk/climate_change/article2675747.ece

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: nik http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28368 nik Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:05:17 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28368 Sorry, BB, you seriously think that our prime minister/politicians should be passing their appointment books to China for approval? Or to any other country? Sorry, BB, you seriously think that our prime minister/politicians should be passing their appointment books to China for approval? Or to any other country?

]]> By: big bro http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28355 big bro Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:35:37 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/06/19/dalai-lama-visits-green-caucus/#comment-28355 This Dalai joker cracks me up, thousands of trendy lefties rush along to see the man say things like "be kind to your neighbour" and they all hail him as some kind of messiah. If that is what they need in their life they should go along and see Bishop Tamaki, at least that way we would not risk losing a free trade deal with China. This Dalai joker cracks me up, thousands of trendy lefties rush along to see the man say things like “be kind to your neighbour” and they all hail him as some kind of messiah.

If that is what they need in their life they should go along and see Bishop Tamaki, at least that way we would not risk losing a free trade deal with China.

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