Comments on: 100% pure, woof woof http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/ hopping along the corridors of power Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:42:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: big bruv http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25465 big bruv Mon, 26 Mar 2007 06:25:40 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25465 kahikatea "presumably you’ve forgotten the huge candlelight vigil that Pita Sharples organised in Manakau City to protest against against child abuse in the wake of the Kahui case" Not at all, firstly it was NOT huge and secondly it is the only event that has been organised so far, not surprisingly it was Pita Sharples who organised the event, he is a good man and one that Maori should listen to a lot more, I particularly like his views on Maori and social welfare. Maori are dead keen to march when there is money or resources at stake but when it is an issue of violence or the massive over representation in our crime stats there is no call for a march. kahikatea

“presumably you’ve forgotten the huge candlelight vigil that Pita Sharples organised in Manakau City to protest against against child abuse in the wake of the Kahui case”

Not at all, firstly it was NOT huge and secondly it is the only event that has been organised so far, not surprisingly it was Pita Sharples who organised the event, he is a good man and one that Maori should listen to a lot more, I particularly like his views on Maori and social welfare.

Maori are dead keen to march when there is money or resources at stake but when it is an issue of violence or the massive over representation in our crime stats there is no call for a march.

]]> By: kahikatea http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25461 kahikatea Mon, 26 Mar 2007 05:46:14 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25461 7. big bruv Says: > Very well said, before we start the usual crap about Maori owning the water it might be a good idea to clean the rivers up. I don't think it has to be one before the other - just that the use of customary rights is meaningless if the river is not safe to enjoy. The treaty of waitangi only requires the recognition of customary rights for Maori, but I see no reason why we can't create legal protection for other people's customary rights, too. > BTW, why is it that Maori can mobilise thousands of people for a march on Parliament when it comes to the seabed and foreshore yet we have never seen a march or a hear a peep from Maori about the shocking level of child abuse and crime among Maori. presumably you've forgotten the huge candlelight vigil that Pita Sharples organised in Manakau City to protest against against child abuse in the wake of the Kahui case. 7. big bruv Says:

> Very well said, before we start the usual crap about Maori owning the water it might be a good idea to clean the rivers up.

I don’t think it has to be one before the other - just that the use of customary rights is meaningless if the river is not safe to enjoy. The treaty of waitangi only requires the recognition of customary rights for Maori, but I see no reason why we can’t create legal protection for other people’s customary rights, too.

> BTW, why is it that Maori can mobilise thousands of people for a march on Parliament when it comes to the seabed and foreshore yet we have never seen a march or a hear a peep from Maori about the shocking level of child abuse and crime among Maori.

presumably you’ve forgotten the huge candlelight vigil that Pita Sharples organised in Manakau City to protest against against child abuse in the wake of the Kahui case.

]]> By: big bruv http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25435 big bruv Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:17:46 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25435 kahikatea Very well said, before we start the usual crap about Maori owning the water it might be a good idea to clean the rivers up. BTW, why is it that Maori can mobilise thousands of people for a march on Parliament when it comes to the seabed and foreshore yet we have never seen a march or a hear a peep from Maori about the shocking level of child abuse and crime among Maori. kahikatea

Very well said, before we start the usual crap about Maori owning the water it might be a good idea to clean the rivers up.

BTW, why is it that Maori can mobilise thousands of people for a march on Parliament when it comes to the seabed and foreshore yet we have never seen a march or a hear a peep from Maori about the shocking level of child abuse and crime among Maori.

]]> By: jh http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25427 jh Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:39:45 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25427 “Tangata whenua respect their customary rights to water as the exercise of tino rangatiratanga and kaitiakitanga over waterways� http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0703/S00461.htm The Green Party supports Maori on this issue. http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/policy5085.html jh “Tangata whenua respect their customary rights to water as the exercise of tino rangatiratanga and kaitiakitanga over waterways�

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0703/S00461.htm

The Green Party supports Maori on this issue.

http://www.greens.org.nz/searchdocs/policy5085.html

jh

]]> By: kahikatea http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25301 kahikatea Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:55:58 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25301 interesting in light of an article in today's Dominion Post about Maori groups asking for recognition of customary rights with reprect to rivers. Seems to me, neither Maori nor Pakeha, nor fish, nor dogs, are going to be able to exercise customary use of rivers if this level of pollution continues. interesting in light of an article in today’s Dominion Post about Maori groups asking for recognition of customary rights with reprect to rivers. Seems to me, neither Maori nor Pakeha, nor fish, nor dogs, are going to be able to exercise customary use of rivers if this level of pollution continues.

]]> By: michaelangelo http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25273 michaelangelo Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:44:11 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25273 Mike Granted - the amount of nitrogen does not get any less. But dilution/concentration is a factor in terms of severity of toxic bloom. What I was saying is similar to your comment - Increase one thing and reduce another - has a consequence- its a balacing act. Especially with our water cycles. Mike
Granted - the amount of nitrogen does not get any less. But dilution/concentration is a factor in terms of severity of toxic bloom. What I was saying is similar to your comment - Increase one thing and reduce another - has a consequence- its a balacing act. Especially with our water cycles.

]]> By: mikeymike http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25271 mikeymike Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:34:25 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25271 it's not a catch 22 at all m'angelo irrigation brings land into dairy production. more dairy means more nitrogen that ends up in waterways. irrigation doesn't dilute nitrogen - it mainlines its delivery. not only do we have lass water available for other users, it's of poorer quality. althought the dairy industry has done a little to <a href="http://www.mfe.govt.nz/issues/land/rural/dairying.html">improve matters</a>, we sure do have <a href="http://shoppingfix.blogspot.com/2006/12/thirsty-work-summer-is-great-time-to-be.html">water issues</a>. mike it’s not a catch 22 at all m’angelo

irrigation brings land into dairy production. more dairy means more nitrogen that ends up in waterways. irrigation doesn’t dilute nitrogen - it mainlines its delivery.

not only do we have lass water available for other users, it’s of poorer quality.

althought the dairy industry has done a little to improve matters, we sure do have water issues.

mike

]]> By: michaelangelo http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25248 michaelangelo Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:42:38 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25248 I wonder if the bottled water manufacturers (or should that be bottlers) are behind this activity? High urea, carbon emmission and nitrogen contamination is going to increase due in part to forest removal and the recent increase in dairying. Irrigation for those giant centre pivot sprinklers that are appearing all over Canterbury and inland MacKenzie country are also going to draw off some of the water that could possibly dilute the contamination in rivers. A sort of catch 22. I wonder if the bottled water manufacturers (or should that be bottlers) are behind this activity?

High urea, carbon emmission and nitrogen contamination is going to increase due in part to forest removal and the recent increase in dairying. Irrigation for those giant centre pivot sprinklers that are appearing all over Canterbury and inland MacKenzie country are also going to draw off some of the water that could possibly dilute the contamination in rivers. A sort of catch 22.

]]> By: phil u http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25246 phil u Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:35:33 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/03/23/100-pure-woof-woof/#comment-25246 um..no comment/story on the g.m. mosquito..? the one with the glowing red eyes..? phil(whoar.co.nz) um..no comment/story on the g.m. mosquito..?

the one with the glowing red eyes..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)

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