Can anyone demonstrate how the Green Charter applies in this case?:
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‘thought so
jh

I was going to say the same thing “they don’t use it”, but I’m careful about statements like that. I had to look it up to believe that there was any leaded for sale, but it is still shipped about by the bbl for these specific things. Yeah, the big fuel dragsters use nitro, but apparently some of the “lesser” classes do not go the whole way. The older engines still “need” the lead, and this is apparently older-engine-racing being practiced.

To know what’s on at that track would have to know what the racers are actually running. The people making the complaint may not be the best source of information about the fuels in use. Still, their real point is the noise and there’s no denying the noise.

I didn’t hear the Dino, but I DID hear the F1 in Adelaide in ‘89 or ‘90 when I was there. Heard the Dino and some others at Bridgehampton Racetrack in New York. That was a long time ago.

You could hear the practice laps clearly in Sag Harbour.

BJ

Dragsters use either ethanol (gas classes) or Nitromethanal (Fuel classes).

Neither use lead.

To the best of my knowledge most racing cars use high octane aviation gas or Shell No1 Racing Fuel both which I understand are unleaded. I could be proven wrong.

Top Fuel cars produce in excess of 8000 HP and mufflers would simply be blown off.

There are two sounds in racing which are unforgetable. One is a Top Fueller leaving the line. A controlled explosion is the correct term and the boom is terrific. (standing at the finish line and listen to the supercharger whine at over 20000 rpm is awesome)

Second best sound was the standing at the end of the straight at the Adelaide track and listening to the FI cars come down from full noise in sixth gear and slam through the gears down to second or first to negatiate the hairpin. Five gears in the space of a second (and 70 metres of track)

And a third for good measure is the high pitched thrill sound the 2.5 litre Tasman Dino Ferrari made around the track back in the sixties driven by Chris Amon and the following year by Graeme Lawrence.

Enough to bring goosebumps to the skin. God, I’m a petrolhead!

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jh

Haz, you’re wrong about fuel efficiency being unimportant to the racers in general. It is not important to these categories, but F1 and Indy racing both make no allowance for pit-stops, so the time spent in the pits is time lost on the track. There’s a weight advantage too. You want to motor across the line with a dry tank… and you know how much the engine burns per lap to the ml (well maybe not that close

The dragsters don’t care and loud is good. Mufflers would be almost impossible… at least I can’t imagine one that would work. The engines are so stressed that they are often rebuilt completely between races.

I sympathize.

The sound deadening “mound of earth” between the houses and the track would also need to be covered with trees. It’d be visually obtrusive to be sure but it’d reduce noise. I’d suggest that and some sanity with respect to the hours of operation.

I don’t think you can insist on mufflers. Also I don’t think you should imply that the sound levels at 400 meters are the same as where the statutory measurement is taken… though I don’t doubt that they render the houses marginal habitations for humans (humans who are not already deaf at any rate). One has to hear a fuel dragster to believe it.

Sounds like a problem that’ll get sorted in the courts.

Interesting that you are concerned about the (so called) minority being allowed to continue their legitimate sport while the majority appose it.

Today we have Bradford’s section 59 bill being read in the house again, 80%+ of NZ parents do not want this bill to be changed at all yet Bradford continues to push ahead with it.

You cannot have it both ways Kiore.

Or build a sound deadening wall which may be visual intrusion into peoples vista?

Ruapuna’s Rules are :
Operational noise levels of 90dBA Lmax and 65dBA L10 (1 hour)
to apply between the hours of 0900 and 2200 hours on ANY day of the calendar year, except that:

.for up to 200 days in any calendar year, the permitted levels
shall be 95dBA Lmax and 80dBA L10 (1 hour), between the hours of
0900 and 2300;
.for up to 15 of those 200 days, these activities shall be
permitted up to 2400 hours;On up to 5 of those 200 days, NO L _max level shall be applied.
Now 95 dBA is TWICE as loud as 85 dBA. It has been established that hearng damage can occur at 85dBA

There are homes within 400 metres of this noise - two of which were there first- the rest are approx 40 years old. The noise is very often loud enough to be heard 1.6 km away by a person wearing grade 5 industrial ear muffs - the noise from a SINGLE ” hire a ride in a race car ” can be heard 5 km away - which is the smarter solution - demolish the hundreds upon hundreds of homes in this radius or fit decent mufflers to the cars ?