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	<title>Comments on: IPCC Fourth Assessment report</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: eredwen</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23338</link>
		<dc:creator>eredwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23338</guid>
		<description>bb:

I've got a better idea!  

Why don't you emigrate to the great US of A?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bb:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a better idea!  </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you emigrate to the great US of A?</p>
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		<title>By: eredwen</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23337</link>
		<dc:creator>eredwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23337</guid>
		<description>Poor old big bruv ... who, apparently, has has (once again) served as the reluctant Benefactor for the entire country.

Helen hasn't give him his money back.  (I guess he means Election publicity funding here.) 
Jeanette has apparently made him empty promises. 
Winston seems to be a dead loss...

bb, do you want us to shed a tear for you, or give you a medal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor old big bruv &#8230; who, apparently, has has (once again) served as the reluctant Benefactor for the entire country.</p>
<p>Helen hasn&#8217;t give him his money back.  (I guess he means Election publicity funding here.)<br />
Jeanette has apparently made him empty promises.<br />
Winston seems to be a dead loss&#8230;</p>
<p>bb, do you want us to shed a tear for you, or give you a medal?</p>
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		<title>By: stuey</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23334</link>
		<dc:creator>stuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23334</guid>
		<description>yawn ... is that the sound of a stuck record?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yawn &#8230; is that the sound of a stuck record?</p>
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		<title>By: big bruv</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23333</link>
		<dc:creator>big bruv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 06:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23333</guid>
		<description>BJ

Before you go putting the boot into the Yanks about who they re-elected lets not forget we hardly have a reason to smile, we re-elected the most corrupt prime minister in our nations history....and say what you like about Bush, at least his election billboards actually bear some resemblance to the man

P.S..speaking of corrupt, any idea where my money is?..I know I have no chance of getting back the money from Winston but I seem to remember Jennette saying that she was going to pay me back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BJ</p>
<p>Before you go putting the boot into the Yanks about who they re-elected lets not forget we hardly have a reason to smile, we re-elected the most corrupt prime minister in our nations history&#8230;.and say what you like about Bush, at least his election billboards actually bear some resemblance to the man</p>
<p>P.S..speaking of corrupt, any idea where my money is?..I know I have no chance of getting back the money from Winston but I seem to remember Jennette saying that she was going to pay me back.</p>
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		<title>By: kingfisher</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23331</link>
		<dc:creator>kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 06:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23331</guid>
		<description>Off-thread somewhat, but I was interested in what Katie said about Sea Shepherd and modern day pirates. It's a paradox that the west has large and expensive armed forces targeted against other conventional forces, guerillas and terrorists, while small amateur outfits such as Sea Shepherd are left to deal with the real security threats, in this case whaling. 

Is it too fanciful to think that in future, sooner rather than later I hope, the US military might use its power to protect the Amazon rainforest from destruction (a real planet-wide security threat), rather than fight a futile battle against drug dealers in Colombia? Come to think of it, this is a role that the NZ navy could also play, albeit on a smaller scale - helping Solomon Islands communities protect their rainforests from Malaysian and Chinese loggers.

www.kotare.typepad.com/thestrategist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-thread somewhat, but I was interested in what Katie said about Sea Shepherd and modern day pirates. It&#8217;s a paradox that the west has large and expensive armed forces targeted against other conventional forces, guerillas and terrorists, while small amateur outfits such as Sea Shepherd are left to deal with the real security threats, in this case whaling. </p>
<p>Is it too fanciful to think that in future, sooner rather than later I hope, the US military might use its power to protect the Amazon rainforest from destruction (a real planet-wide security threat), rather than fight a futile battle against drug dealers in Colombia? Come to think of it, this is a role that the NZ navy could also play, albeit on a smaller scale - helping Solomon Islands communities protect their rainforests from Malaysian and Chinese loggers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kotare.typepad.com/thestrategist" >http://www.kotare.typepad.com/thestrategist</a></p>
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23323</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23323</guid>
		<description>Russel, JH 

As an American I can assure you that there is no need to apply the restriction "about climate change" to the comment that "in general Americans seem to be poorly informed".  

Recollecting that there's 12% illiteracy...  and that they re-elected the Shrub... and that about 30% still think that WMDs were found... 

...that's NOT a description of a country where democracy based on an informed electorate is thriving.   

respectfully 
BJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russel, JH </p>
<p>As an American I can assure you that there is no need to apply the restriction &#8220;about climate change&#8221; to the comment that &#8220;in general Americans seem to be poorly informed&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Recollecting that there&#8217;s 12% illiteracy&#8230;  and that they re-elected the Shrub&#8230; and that about 30% still think that WMDs were found&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8230;that&#8217;s NOT a description of a country where democracy based on an informed electorate is thriving.   </p>
<p>respectfully<br />
BJ</p>
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		<title>By: Russel</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23319</link>
		<dc:creator>Russel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23319</guid>
		<description>I generally try to make sure I refer to the US govt rather than Americans when that's what I mean. I am very well aware of all the great Americans.

I've got Lou Reed's "New York" album which is just fantastic and has Last Great American Whale on it. That album has lots of politics, more than I've come across in his other stuff (tho I am no expert). And yes the quote from Lou does refer to "Americans" rather than the "US Govt", which is of course what he meant. He was despairing that lots Americans didn't seem to care about the environment. And I think it is a real problem that in general Americans seem to be poorly informed about climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally try to make sure I refer to the US govt rather than Americans when that&#8217;s what I mean. I am very well aware of all the great Americans.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got Lou Reed&#8217;s &#8220;New York&#8221; album which is just fantastic and has Last Great American Whale on it. That album has lots of politics, more than I&#8217;ve come across in his other stuff (tho I am no expert). And yes the quote from Lou does refer to &#8220;Americans&#8221; rather than the &#8220;US Govt&#8221;, which is of course what he meant. He was despairing that lots Americans didn&#8217;t seem to care about the environment. And I think it is a real problem that in general Americans seem to be poorly informed about climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23314</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23314</guid>
		<description>meanwhile, I'm curious enough to ask Russ if his Lou Reed track comes from the Greenpeace compilation from about, oh, 1989, or am I the only person left with one of those? (and "the last great american whale" was one of my favourite tracks on there, which was a Rainbow Warrior fundy) 

Whales are one of the ocean's indicator species, healthy whales = healthy oceans.

I'm going to shift the mood here by asserting "no whales = too many bloody Japanese whaling ships", and run a plug for the Sea Shepherd, which has been de-registered in it's home country (UK), due to Japanese pressure, creating our first new Pirates in some centuries to be saiing from a European base. (I defer to the great quantity of SE Asian pirates for modernity and recent evolution...)

So, for the statisticians out there, anti-american isn't the only cultural bias to be met on the blog here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>meanwhile, I&#8217;m curious enough to ask Russ if his Lou Reed track comes from the Greenpeace compilation from about, oh, 1989, or am I the only person left with one of those? (and &#8220;the last great american whale&#8221; was one of my favourite tracks on there, which was a Rainbow Warrior fundy) </p>
<p>Whales are one of the ocean&#8217;s indicator species, healthy whales = healthy oceans.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to shift the mood here by asserting &#8220;no whales = too many bloody Japanese whaling ships&#8221;, and run a plug for the Sea Shepherd, which has been de-registered in it&#8217;s home country (UK), due to Japanese pressure, creating our first new Pirates in some centuries to be saiing from a European base. (I defer to the great quantity of SE Asian pirates for modernity and recent evolution&#8230;)</p>
<p>So, for the statisticians out there, anti-american isn&#8217;t the only cultural bias to be met on the blog here!</p>
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23313</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23313</guid>
		<description>Mostly I take my financial references from the Motley-Fool boards.  In particular the Mishedlo board there.    It's a membership board... I think you can read as a guest though.    

http://boards.fool.com/Messages.asp?mid=25131503&#38;bid=114903

Not all there agree on anything, but it is a damned good source for news and understanding of the financial sector.   The China-US-Debt business has been pretty well covered but it's like going through the archives here.   Lots of chaff to sift to get the wheat. 

BJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mostly I take my financial references from the Motley-Fool boards.  In particular the Mishedlo board there.    It&#8217;s a membership board&#8230; I think you can read as a guest though.    </p>
<p><a href="http://boards.fool.com/Messages.asp?mid=25131503&amp;bid=114903" >http://boards.fool.com/Messages.asp?mid=25131503&amp;bid=114903</a></p>
<p>Not all there agree on anything, but it is a damned good source for news and understanding of the financial sector.   The China-US-Debt business has been pretty well covered but it&#8217;s like going through the archives here.   Lots of chaff to sift to get the wheat. </p>
<p>BJ</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23310</link>
		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 05:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2007/02/04/ipcc-fourth-assessment-report/#comment-23310</guid>
		<description>BJ what are your references?. 
jh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BJ what are your references?.<br />
jh</p>
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