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	<title>Comments on: Learn about coal!</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dbuckley</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-14860</link>
		<dc:creator>dbuckley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 01:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-14860</guid>
		<description>You think coal ads are bad - check this out:  http://streams.cei.org/

CO2: we call it life

Found at http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic20368.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think coal ads are bad - check this out:  <a href="http://streams.cei.org/" >http://streams.cei.org/</a></p>
<p>CO2: we call it life</p>
<p>Found at <a href="http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic20368.html" >http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic20368.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12835</link>
		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12835</guid>
		<description>Or as chimney sweeps...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or as chimney sweeps&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: taranaki</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12833</link>
		<dc:creator>taranaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 13:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12833</guid>
		<description>I don't see what the Greens' blog has to do with these as yet unidentified environmental groups' campaign. Any more than should we hold the ACT party acountable for Telecom's deception of their customers - after all aren't ACT the party of business? Perhaps the pot and the kettle are in diferent kitchens!

Regardless, thanks to the US crackdown on illegal immigrants, I think the actual funny of the site is enhanced by the thought of these pint sized coal proponents enjoying themselves when we put them back to work in the mines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what the Greens&#8217; blog has to do with these as yet unidentified environmental groups&#8217; campaign. Any more than should we hold the ACT party acountable for Telecom&#8217;s deception of their customers - after all aren&#8217;t ACT the party of business? Perhaps the pot and the kettle are in diferent kitchens!</p>
<p>Regardless, thanks to the US crackdown on illegal immigrants, I think the actual funny of the site is enhanced by the thought of these pint sized coal proponents enjoying themselves when we put them back to work in the mines.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Bayne</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12798</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Bayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 09:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12798</guid>
		<description>resistantsoy,

Yes, I did - did you understand mine? :-P  

What I meant was that the original poster was criticising the use of cute children in advertising - when environmental groups do exactly that themselves.  This is somewhat hypocritical, don't you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>resistantsoy,</p>
<p>Yes, I did - did you understand mine? <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>What I meant was that the original poster was criticising the use of cute children in advertising - when environmental groups do exactly that themselves.  This is somewhat hypocritical, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Edge</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12796</link>
		<dc:creator>Edge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 09:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12796</guid>
		<description>resistantsoy - I'd have thought so - especially with its implication that this is something environmentalists/the GPANZ haven't done.

And frog - I thought ad hominems were above you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>resistantsoy - I&#8217;d have thought so - especially with its implication that this is something environmentalists/the GPANZ haven&#8217;t done.</p>
<p>And frog - I thought ad hominems were above you.</p>
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		<title>By: resistantsoy</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12788</link>
		<dc:creator>resistantsoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 09:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12788</guid>
		<description>"The use of cute kids to sell products or ideas is questionable at the best of times"

Did you even read the post Duncan Bayne?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The use of cute kids to sell products or ideas is questionable at the best of times&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you even read the post Duncan Bayne?</p>
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		<title>By: katie</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12595</link>
		<dc:creator>katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 04:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12595</guid>
		<description>surely by now the public of the US have learnt that 
coal-burning=smoke, 
smoke +cities=smog, 
children+smog=health problems for an entire generation of kids

If they don't know enough about smog already, they should be able to work this one out!  It'll catch up with them very quickly.

Haven't they had their own big mining disaster in Pennsylvania recently? 
Maybe along with not being able to find healthy young people to volunteer for being shot up and coated in DU dust in Iraq, they're having problems recruiting working class youth to go "doon t'mine "..... and develop coal dust psthisis (a lung disease of miners).

So many reasons not to use coal, so little willingness to accept finity of resources!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely by now the public of the US have learnt that<br />
coal-burning=smoke,<br />
smoke +cities=smog,<br />
children+smog=health problems for an entire generation of kids</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t know enough about smog already, they should be able to work this one out!  It&#8217;ll catch up with them very quickly.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t they had their own big mining disaster in Pennsylvania recently?<br />
Maybe along with not being able to find healthy young people to volunteer for being shot up and coated in DU dust in Iraq, they&#8217;re having problems recruiting working class youth to go &#8220;doon t&#8217;mine &#8220;&#8230;.. and develop coal dust psthisis (a lung disease of miners).</p>
<p>So many reasons not to use coal, so little willingness to accept finity of resources!</p>
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		<title>By: mikeymike</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12557</link>
		<dc:creator>mikeymike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 02:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12557</guid>
		<description>surely we've learnt to look past the spin!? each "side" will market as they please and thats fair enough. its legal (i assume). kids are not the issue. coal is. no point adding smoke to the smoke screen.

i posted a comment on their site which will no doubt be "excluded". it read:

*****
this much is known: coal is dirty and finite, sequestration technology is emerging rather than proven.

question: why burn coal today and wait for proof tomorrow?

in all other "public health" fields, trials are mandatory. eg. a new drug must be supported by human trials to ensure risk free use. its illegal for pfizer/merck/etc to promote the use of a new drug before it has been approved.

surely the same "rules" apply???
*****</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>surely we&#8217;ve learnt to look past the spin!? each &#8220;side&#8221; will market as they please and thats fair enough. its legal (i assume). kids are not the issue. coal is. no point adding smoke to the smoke screen.</p>
<p>i posted a comment on their site which will no doubt be &#8220;excluded&#8221;. it read:</p>
<p>*****<br />
this much is known: coal is dirty and finite, sequestration technology is emerging rather than proven.</p>
<p>question: why burn coal today and wait for proof tomorrow?</p>
<p>in all other &#8220;public health&#8221; fields, trials are mandatory. eg. a new drug must be supported by human trials to ensure risk free use. its illegal for pfizer/merck/etc to promote the use of a new drug before it has been approved.</p>
<p>surely the same &#8220;rules&#8221; apply???<br />
*****</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Bayne</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12556</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Bayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 02:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/05/18/learn-about-coal/#comment-12556</guid>
		<description>So, you're saying that environmentalists have never used this type of marketing?  That images of cute children playing in natural settings haven't been used here, in New Zealand, to advocate environmentally-friendly energy sources?

Pot, kettle, black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you&#8217;re saying that environmentalists have never used this type of marketing?  That images of cute children playing in natural settings haven&#8217;t been used here, in New Zealand, to advocate environmentally-friendly energy sources?</p>
<p>Pot, kettle, black.</p>
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