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	<title>Comments on: Winston won&#8217;t condemn Guantanamo Bay</title>
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		<title>By: zoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/02/24/winston-wont-condemn-guantanamo-bay/#comment-11734</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Close it, close it I say! Or I&#039;ll, I&#039;ll... be forced to wave my finger threateningly at you
Naughty America</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Close it, close it I say! Or I&#8217;ll, I&#8217;ll&#8230; be forced to wave my finger threateningly at you<br />
Naughty America
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		<title>By: jeeves</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeeves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 02:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See I read that quite another way. For a Foreign Minister to condem these abuses at Guantanimo or elsewherre *is* pretty strong language. Thing is, most diplomats don&#039;t require megaphones to send or receive a message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See I read that quite another way. For a Foreign Minister to condem these abuses at Guantanimo or elsewherre *is* pretty strong language. Thing is, most diplomats don&#8217;t require megaphones to send or receive a message.
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		<title>By: Brian Boyko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Boyko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a poem on the blog of Rebecca Borgstrom, a fiction writer and poet.  Here&#039;s a link.  I&#039;m republishing it here without her permission, and I do not know her political affiliations so I can&#039;t say that she&#039;d approve.  On the other hand, it&#039;s a really good poem.  

http://rebecca.hitherby.com/archives/000124.php

If I Ran The Bay

&quot;It&#039;s a pretty good Bay,&quot; says young Ellen the Grey,
&quot;And the fellows who run it are righteous, I&#039;d say.
But if &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; ran the Bay, the New Bay, the Grey Bay,
I&#039;d see that it changed in a few little ways.
I&#039;d open the cages. I&#039;d let these folks out;
No underage kids with their scabies and pouts;
No octogenarians, no nonagenarians,
And none of the rest of the camp&#039;s human carrion.
I&#039;d like to keep &lt;i&gt;him&lt;/i&gt;, but I&#039;m egalitarian.
So all of you, jump! With a cry of &#039;Geronimo!&#039;
You&#039;re free as a bird! You&#039;re free from Guantanamo!

&quot;Then,&quot; says Ellen the Grey, &quot;on the very next day,
When I&#039;ve rinsed the place clean of the smell of decay,
I&#039;d go hunting the mountains of Zomba-ma-tant,
And in no time at all find the one that I want,
The bloody, the awful, the Grand Hierophant.
He stands on one mountain, tall, crimson, and gaunt,
With his long stick-like arms and the hate that he flaunts,
And his long fingers plucking and mucking and shucking
The people who live there, whose lives are just sucking,
And I&#039;d put him in chains and I&#039;d lead him away
And I&#039;d take him back home to Guantanamo Bay.

&quot;But I wouldn&#039;t stop there! No, that just wouldn&#039;t do.
I&#039;d travel to far Insk-An-Abalaroo
Where beef falls from the sky and so hunting is sieving,
And the airport&#039;s offshore lest the plane be Thanksgiving,
And the haughty Grand Poobah makes folks scared of living
With the long speaking tubes that relay his misgivings
And his humbling mumbling that answers their grumbling
And extensible hands to send weak rebels tumbling
And I&#039;d say to the Poobah &#039;It&#039;s time that you paid,&#039;
And I&#039;d take him back home to Guantanamo Bay.

&quot;I could do what I want! I could steal Britney Spears!
And Leo, and Russell, and of course Richard Gere,
I&#039;d keep them in cages, &#039;neath the glare of mad sages,
With no kind of oversight save for &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; aegis,
But they&#039;d just be sideshows. They&#039;d just be the meat!
I shouldn&#039;t waste time catching folks so discreet.
Guantanamo&#039;s not for the genteel elite.
So it&#039;s back to my job! It&#039;s another work day:
Capturing horrors for Guantanamo Bay.

&quot;I&#039;d hunt down the Beast of Ma-Ah-Li-Ha-Kated---
There&#039;s no better match for the objective stated!
The man can&#039;t be sated, no matter how mated,
And he shakes&#039;n&#039;bakes wives once they&#039;ve been conjugated.
He takes and he breaks and he shakes and he bakes
And he often partakes while the victim&#039;s awake
But I&#039;d open his eyes, in Guantanamo Bay,
And I&#039;d cook him by inches for six solid days
I&#039;d cook him by inches! For six solid days!
In an Easy-Bake Oven with a white chocolate glaze.
And once in a while I&#039;d quietly pray
That my choices are right,&quot; admits Ellen the Grey.

&quot;When I&#039;d caught the worst few, I&#039;d again have some leisure,
So I&#039;d travel to Duluth, the City of Measures,
And hunt down the monster engaged in his pleasures,
With the two golden spheres that he claims as his treasures,
His tongue&#039;s like a whip and his claws are quite keen,
And he kills those who don&#039;t think his spheres are worth beans.
Yes, the monster&#039;s uncouth and he&#039;s ruthless to boot
But I think that it&#039;s sooth that he&#039;s toothless in truth
So I&#039;ll drug his vermouth, shanghai him from Duluth,
And I&#039;d put him in chains and I&#039;d lead him away
And I&#039;d take him back home to Guantanamo Bay.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a poem on the blog of Rebecca Borgstrom, a fiction writer and poet.  Here&#8217;s a link.  I&#8217;m republishing it here without her permission, and I do not know her political affiliations so I can&#8217;t say that she&#8217;d approve.  On the other hand, it&#8217;s a really good poem.  </p>
<p><a href="http://rebecca.hitherby.com/archives/000124.php" rel="nofollow">http://rebecca.hitherby.com/archives/000124.php</a></p>
<p>If I Ran The Bay</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a pretty good Bay,&#8221; says young Ellen the Grey,<br />
&#8220;And the fellows who run it are righteous, I&#8217;d say.<br />
But if <i>I</i> ran the Bay, the New Bay, the Grey Bay,<br />
I&#8217;d see that it changed in a few little ways.<br />
I&#8217;d open the cages. I&#8217;d let these folks out;<br />
No underage kids with their scabies and pouts;<br />
No octogenarians, no nonagenarians,<br />
And none of the rest of the camp&#8217;s human carrion.<br />
I&#8217;d like to keep <i>him</i>, but I&#8217;m egalitarian.<br />
So all of you, jump! With a cry of &#8216;Geronimo!&#8217;<br />
You&#8217;re free as a bird! You&#8217;re free from Guantanamo!</p>
<p>&#8220;Then,&#8221; says Ellen the Grey, &#8220;on the very next day,<br />
When I&#8217;ve rinsed the place clean of the smell of decay,<br />
I&#8217;d go hunting the mountains of Zomba-ma-tant,<br />
And in no time at all find the one that I want,<br />
The bloody, the awful, the Grand Hierophant.<br />
He stands on one mountain, tall, crimson, and gaunt,<br />
With his long stick-like arms and the hate that he flaunts,<br />
And his long fingers plucking and mucking and shucking<br />
The people who live there, whose lives are just sucking,<br />
And I&#8217;d put him in chains and I&#8217;d lead him away<br />
And I&#8217;d take him back home to Guantanamo Bay.</p>
<p>&#8220;But I wouldn&#8217;t stop there! No, that just wouldn&#8217;t do.<br />
I&#8217;d travel to far Insk-An-Abalaroo<br />
Where beef falls from the sky and so hunting is sieving,<br />
And the airport&#8217;s offshore lest the plane be Thanksgiving,<br />
And the haughty Grand Poobah makes folks scared of living<br />
With the long speaking tubes that relay his misgivings<br />
And his humbling mumbling that answers their grumbling<br />
And extensible hands to send weak rebels tumbling<br />
And I&#8217;d say to the Poobah &#8216;It&#8217;s time that you paid,&#8217;<br />
And I&#8217;d take him back home to Guantanamo Bay.</p>
<p>&#8220;I could do what I want! I could steal Britney Spears!<br />
And Leo, and Russell, and of course Richard Gere,<br />
I&#8217;d keep them in cages, &#8216;neath the glare of mad sages,<br />
With no kind of oversight save for <i>my</i> aegis,<br />
But they&#8217;d just be sideshows. They&#8217;d just be the meat!<br />
I shouldn&#8217;t waste time catching folks so discreet.<br />
Guantanamo&#8217;s not for the genteel elite.<br />
So it&#8217;s back to my job! It&#8217;s another work day:<br />
Capturing horrors for Guantanamo Bay.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d hunt down the Beast of Ma-Ah-Li-Ha-Kated&#8212;<br />
There&#8217;s no better match for the objective stated!<br />
The man can&#8217;t be sated, no matter how mated,<br />
And he shakes&#8217;n'bakes wives once they&#8217;ve been conjugated.<br />
He takes and he breaks and he shakes and he bakes<br />
And he often partakes while the victim&#8217;s awake<br />
But I&#8217;d open his eyes, in Guantanamo Bay,<br />
And I&#8217;d cook him by inches for six solid days<br />
I&#8217;d cook him by inches! For six solid days!<br />
In an Easy-Bake Oven with a white chocolate glaze.<br />
And once in a while I&#8217;d quietly pray<br />
That my choices are right,&#8221; admits Ellen the Grey.</p>
<p>&#8220;When I&#8217;d caught the worst few, I&#8217;d again have some leisure,<br />
So I&#8217;d travel to Duluth, the City of Measures,<br />
And hunt down the monster engaged in his pleasures,<br />
With the two golden spheres that he claims as his treasures,<br />
His tongue&#8217;s like a whip and his claws are quite keen,<br />
And he kills those who don&#8217;t think his spheres are worth beans.<br />
Yes, the monster&#8217;s uncouth and he&#8217;s ruthless to boot<br />
But I think that it&#8217;s sooth that he&#8217;s toothless in truth<br />
So I&#8217;ll drug his vermouth, shanghai him from Duluth,<br />
And I&#8217;d put him in chains and I&#8217;d lead him away<br />
And I&#8217;d take him back home to Guantanamo Bay.&#8221;
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		<title>By: eredwen</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/02/24/winston-wont-condemn-guantanamo-bay/#comment-11562</link>
		<dc:creator>eredwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so say I!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so say I!
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		<title>By: Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely Larry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely Larry.
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		<title>By: Larry Ross</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/02/24/winston-wont-condemn-guantanamo-bay/#comment-11560</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guantanamo, with it&#039;s illegal imprisonment of innocent people, torture, forced feeding, shaming, lack of trials, should be closed. For New Zealand&#039;s own good, for Americans, and for people everywhere who believe in freedom, democracy and human rights, we should stand up to the Bush Administration, and officially protest it&#039;s criminal policies.   
It is not anti-American to bear witness to how the Bush Administration is violating the U.S. Constitution and International Law.
Larry Ross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guantanamo, with it&#8217;s illegal imprisonment of innocent people, torture, forced feeding, shaming, lack of trials, should be closed. For New Zealand&#8217;s own good, for Americans, and for people everywhere who believe in freedom, democracy and human rights, we should stand up to the Bush Administration, and officially protest it&#8217;s criminal policies.<br />
It is not anti-American to bear witness to how the Bush Administration is violating the U.S. Constitution and International Law.<br />
Larry Ross
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		<title>By: bjchip</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/02/24/winston-wont-condemn-guantanamo-bay/#comment-11551</link>
		<dc:creator>bjchip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winston is only in error because Gitmo is unique.   It is a military armed camp which only incidentally houses a prison, and the prison and prisoners at Gitmo are inaccessible to ANYONE without the permission of the military.  

In other words, it is not like prisons elsewhere, unless they are the sole occupants of islands (like Alcatraz used to be) AND completely under control of the government via the military AND remote.    

It is a damned inconvenient place to keep people too,  one which begs the question, why pay the support costs for a prison there when it would be so much cheaper and more convenient to have the prison somewhere in Nebraska or (for that matter) Alcatraz?    Why must it be so isolated?  

The unique status and situation of Gitmo makes it needful that the prison facility there be closed if we wish to have any assurance that prisoners there will not be abused.   Most other places on the planet do not have these characteristics.   

Just my $0.02

respectfully 
BJ
 -- Who spent several weeks at Gitmo one day :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winston is only in error because Gitmo is unique.   It is a military armed camp which only incidentally houses a prison, and the prison and prisoners at Gitmo are inaccessible to ANYONE without the permission of the military.  </p>
<p>In other words, it is not like prisons elsewhere, unless they are the sole occupants of islands (like Alcatraz used to be) AND completely under control of the government via the military AND remote.    </p>
<p>It is a damned inconvenient place to keep people too,  one which begs the question, why pay the support costs for a prison there when it would be so much cheaper and more convenient to have the prison somewhere in Nebraska or (for that matter) Alcatraz?    Why must it be so isolated?  </p>
<p>The unique status and situation of Gitmo makes it needful that the prison facility there be closed if we wish to have any assurance that prisoners there will not be abused.   Most other places on the planet do not have these characteristics.   </p>
<p>Just my $0.02</p>
<p>respectfully<br />
BJ<br />
 &#8212; Who spent several weeks at Gitmo one day <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: idiot/savant</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/02/24/winston-wont-condemn-guantanamo-bay/#comment-11549</link>
		<dc:creator>idiot/savant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we can now refer to him as the MP who supported torture at Guantanamo in retaliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we can now refer to him as the MP who supported torture at Guantanamo in retaliation.
<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-11549" src="http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('11549', 'add', 'blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" /> <small id="karma-11549-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-11549" src="http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('11549', 'subtract', 'blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" /> <small id="karma-11549-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small> (<small id="karma-11549-total" >0</small>)</p>
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		<title>By: kiore1</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/02/24/winston-wont-condemn-guantanamo-bay/#comment-11547</link>
		<dc:creator>kiore1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice Winston still manages to drag Pol Pot into his replies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice Winston still manages to drag Pol Pot into his replies!
<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-11547" src="http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('11547', 'add', 'blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" /> <small id="karma-11547-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-11547" src="http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('11547', 'subtract', 'blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" /> <small id="karma-11547-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small> (<small id="karma-11547-total" >0</small>)</p>
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		<title>By: idiot/savant</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/02/24/winston-wont-condemn-guantanamo-bay/#comment-11546</link>
		<dc:creator>idiot/savant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that Keith now has a motion calling on Parliment to condemn Guantanamo.  Which will at least force the weasels to put up or shut up, and either vote for human rights or for arbitrary detention and torture.  I wonder which they&#039;ll choose?

I&#039;m &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2006/02/show-bastards-were-watching.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;urging people to lobby politicians on this&lt;/a&gt;, and I&#039;ve created a pledgebank pledge for those who want to commit to doing so.  You can sign up &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.pledgebank.com/NZGitmoVote&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that Keith now has a motion calling on Parliment to condemn Guantanamo.  Which will at least force the weasels to put up or shut up, and either vote for human rights or for arbitrary detention and torture.  I wonder which they&#8217;ll choose?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m <a HREF="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2006/02/show-bastards-were-watching.html" rel="nofollow">urging people to lobby politicians on this</a>, and I&#8217;ve created a pledgebank pledge for those who want to commit to doing so.  You can sign up <a HREF="http://www.pledgebank.com/NZGitmoVote" rel="nofollow">here</a>.
<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-11546" src="http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('11546', 'add', 'blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" /> <small id="karma-11546-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-11546" src="http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('11546', 'subtract', 'blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" /> <small id="karma-11546-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small> (<small id="karma-11546-total" >0</small>)</p>
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		<title>By: Gill</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2006/02/24/winston-wont-condemn-guantanamo-bay/#comment-11545</link>
		<dc:creator>Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we mustn&#039;t upset the wonderful US of A, must we :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we mustn&#8217;t upset the wonderful US of A, must we <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />
<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="up-11545" src="http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('11545', 'add', 'blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" /> <small id="karma-11545-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" id="down-11545" src="http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('11545', 'subtract', 'blog.greens.org.nz/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" /> <small id="karma-11545-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small> (<small id="karma-11545-total" >0</small>)</p>
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