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	<title>Comments on: Albatrosses in the soup</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: triffid</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10498</link>
		<dc:creator>triffid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 08:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10498</guid>
		<description>I found it interesting that on the TV news (3 I think) the story was heralded as "Albatross Colony has a breeding problem", when the actual problem is the albatrosses being killed at sea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found it interesting that on the TV news (3 I think) the story was heralded as &#8220;Albatross Colony has a breeding problem&#8221;, when the actual problem is the albatrosses being killed at sea.</p>
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		<title>By: peterquixote</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10491</link>
		<dc:creator>peterquixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10491</guid>
		<description>them bird delicious</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>them bird delicious</p>
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		<title>By: alexei</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10487</link>
		<dc:creator>alexei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10487</guid>
		<description>TomS - Are you arguing for a purely aesthetic view of conservation? Only the nice cuddly (and tasty) animals should be spared from extinction? Or do you think that birds and animals should exhibit human morality? I am not sure which ridiculous position you are taking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TomS - Are you arguing for a purely aesthetic view of conservation? Only the nice cuddly (and tasty) animals should be spared from extinction? Or do you think that birds and animals should exhibit human morality? I am not sure which ridiculous position you are taking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stuey</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10486</link>
		<dc:creator>stuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10486</guid>
		<description>back to the albatross

did you know that the save the albatross campaign has been adopted by the volvo ocean race?
http://www.volvooceanrace.org/
points to
http://www.savethealbatross.net/
apparantly the "race is on".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>back to the albatross</p>
<p>did you know that the save the albatross campaign has been adopted by the volvo ocean race?<br />
<a href="http://www.volvooceanrace.org/" >http://www.volvooceanrace.org/</a><br />
points to<br />
<a href="http://www.savethealbatross.net/" >http://www.savethealbatross.net/</a><br />
apparantly the &#8220;race is on&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: phil u.</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10477</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10477</guid>
		<description>um....i don't want to get too po-faced about it.....but if you haven't eaten animals for a couple of decades....it is like watching a form of cannibalism...watching people rip into meat....

at times..it can border on the surreal..especially when they are revelling in it..with appropriate grunts..moans..and sounds of tearing flesh..licking of fingers etc...

i find it hard not to stare....

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um&#8230;.i don&#8217;t want to get too po-faced about it&#8230;..but if you haven&#8217;t eaten animals for a couple of decades&#8230;.it is like watching a form of cannibalism&#8230;watching people rip into meat&#8230;.</p>
<p>at times..it can border on the surreal..especially when they are revelling in it..with appropriate grunts..moans..and sounds of tearing flesh..licking of fingers etc&#8230;</p>
<p>i find it hard not to stare&#8230;.</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: phil u.</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10476</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10476</guid>
		<description>kitchener..that was just a one-liner..?..if not..could you elucidate...?..ta..

phil(whoar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kitchener..that was just a one-liner..?..if not..could you elucidate&#8230;?..ta..</p>
<p>phil(whoar</p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10475</link>
		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 08:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10475</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sad state of affairs when the Japanese fishing fleet is ahead of us on this one.&lt;/i&gt;

Hardly a surprising state of affairs... with the notable exception of whaling (a deeply cultural issue), I expect you'll find that the Japanese are ahead of New Zealanders in just about every environmental issue you could name.

They probably still have a bad rep from the 70s, where hyperpollution, mercury poisoning, smog etc were rampant... but these days, they have clean air, clean water, good recycling and waste management, they are the only industrialised nation which has seriously and deliberately reduced CO2 emissions, etc...

without being all starry-eyed, there is an awful lot we can learn from the Japanese. On the opposite end of the scale from NZ : because of high population density and industrialization, they are obliged to take the environment seriously. In NZ, we implicitly expect the environment to just suck it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sad state of affairs when the Japanese fishing fleet is ahead of us on this one.</i></p>
<p>Hardly a surprising state of affairs&#8230; with the notable exception of whaling (a deeply cultural issue), I expect you&#8217;ll find that the Japanese are ahead of New Zealanders in just about every environmental issue you could name.</p>
<p>They probably still have a bad rep from the 70s, where hyperpollution, mercury poisoning, smog etc were rampant&#8230; but these days, they have clean air, clean water, good recycling and waste management, they are the only industrialised nation which has seriously and deliberately reduced CO2 emissions, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>without being all starry-eyed, there is an awful lot we can learn from the Japanese. On the opposite end of the scale from NZ : because of high population density and industrialization, they are obliged to take the environment seriously. In NZ, we implicitly expect the environment to just suck it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10474</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10474</guid>
		<description>Kitchener, you reminded me of a wonderful Terry Pratchett quote where he refers to cannibalism:

"The trouble isn't being a vegetarian by day, it's avoiding becoming a humanitarian at night"

;D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kitchener, you reminded me of a wonderful Terry Pratchett quote where he refers to cannibalism:</p>
<p>&#8220;The trouble isn&#8217;t being a vegetarian by day, it&#8217;s avoiding becoming a humanitarian at night&#8221;</p>
<p>;D</p>
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		<title>By: kitchener</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10472</link>
		<dc:creator>kitchener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10472</guid>
		<description>Indeed, I've long believed that cannibalism is the next logical step on from veganism :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, I&#8217;ve long believed that cannibalism is the next logical step on from veganism <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: kiore1</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10471</link>
		<dc:creator>kiore1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/12/16/albatrosses-in-the-soup/#comment-10471</guid>
		<description>They sound almost as vicious as Homo sapiens in their treatment of other sentient species!  They certainly deserve to go extinct, and while we are at it let's declare open season on humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They sound almost as vicious as Homo sapiens in their treatment of other sentient species!  They certainly deserve to go extinct, and while we are at it let&#8217;s declare open season on humans.</p>
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