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	<title>Comments on: Mall life</title>
	<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/</link>
	<description>hopping along the corridors of power</description>
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		<title>By: DenMan</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-19748</link>
		<dc:creator>DenMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-19748</guid>
		<description>The article entitled â€œMall lifeâ€? triggered some thoughts I have about alcohol abuse and alcoholism.  Even though the following commentary is about the United States, Iâ€™m sure that most of what follows applies to New Zealand as well.

The issues of homelessness and alcoholism are very complex.  While homelessness is a worthwhile topic of discussion, this commentary will focus on the alcoholism part of the equation.  

I believe that a large contributor to the alcoholism in our country is the mixed messages we have about alcohol.  Simply put, how can something as prevalent, accepted, and accessible in our society be so harmful AND illegal when consumed even in moderation?  

Stated differently, consider the thousands upon thousands of bars and taverns in the United States.  Now add to this list the restaurants, night clubs, sporting events, festivals, state fairs, hotels, casinos, carnivals, etc. where alcoholic beverages are regularly served.  Finally, add the grocery stores, liquor stores, beverage stores, the Convenient Food Marts, the 7/11 stores, and the state stores where a person can purchase as many bottles, cans, and cases of alcoholic beverages as he or she desires.

The point:  drinking alcohol is pervasively and intimately engrained in our society.  Yet in all 50 states, driving with a blood alcohol level of .08% will result in a DUI or DWI if the driver is caught by the police.  Something obviously is not right in our society and the way in which it views alcohol.  If drinking two or three alcoholic drinks per day is considered dangerous to one's health AND can result in a DUI or DWI-related fatality, perhaps it's time that the number of bars and taverns is significantly reduced or eliminated.  If drinking can lead to alcoholism by so many people in our society and result in severe health problems and alcohol-related injuries and fatalities, maybe alcohol should not be sold in the above list of stores and business establishments. 

Denny
http://www.alcohol-test-info.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article entitled â€œMall lifeâ€? triggered some thoughts I have about alcohol abuse and alcoholism.  Even though the following commentary is about the United States, Iâ€™m sure that most of what follows applies to New Zealand as well.</p>
<p>The issues of homelessness and alcoholism are very complex.  While homelessness is a worthwhile topic of discussion, this commentary will focus on the alcoholism part of the equation.  </p>
<p>I believe that a large contributor to the alcoholism in our country is the mixed messages we have about alcohol.  Simply put, how can something as prevalent, accepted, and accessible in our society be so harmful AND illegal when consumed even in moderation?  </p>
<p>Stated differently, consider the thousands upon thousands of bars and taverns in the United States.  Now add to this list the restaurants, night clubs, sporting events, festivals, state fairs, hotels, casinos, carnivals, etc. where alcoholic beverages are regularly served.  Finally, add the grocery stores, liquor stores, beverage stores, the Convenient Food Marts, the 7/11 stores, and the state stores where a person can purchase as many bottles, cans, and cases of alcoholic beverages as he or she desires.</p>
<p>The point:  drinking alcohol is pervasively and intimately engrained in our society.  Yet in all 50 states, driving with a blood alcohol level of .08% will result in a DUI or DWI if the driver is caught by the police.  Something obviously is not right in our society and the way in which it views alcohol.  If drinking two or three alcoholic drinks per day is considered dangerous to one&#8217;s health AND can result in a DUI or DWI-related fatality, perhaps it&#8217;s time that the number of bars and taverns is significantly reduced or eliminated.  If drinking can lead to alcoholism by so many people in our society and result in severe health problems and alcohol-related injuries and fatalities, maybe alcohol should not be sold in the above list of stores and business establishments. </p>
<p>Denny<br />
<a href="http://www.alcohol-test-info.com" >http://www.alcohol-test-info.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Boyko</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-9022</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Boyko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-9022</guid>
		<description>Yes.  They could be faking. 

You think I'm joking but I'm not.  We're all paranoid here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  They could be faking. </p>
<p>You think I&#8217;m joking but I&#8217;m not.  We&#8217;re all paranoid here.</p>
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		<title>By: ryank</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8945</link>
		<dc:creator>ryank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2005 01:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8945</guid>
		<description>Would anyone else regard a passed-out drunk as 'scary and intimidating'?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would anyone else regard a passed-out drunk as &#8217;scary and intimidating&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8908</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8908</guid>
		<description>Oh, and as for that idiot Blumsky, could he name a 'first rate' city that doesn't have homeless people? 

The only examples I can think of are in countries which don't suffer the social alienation of capitalist countries, and also lack the same fanatical adherence for private property and regulations, so are relaxed about people knocking up a hut on unused land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and as for that idiot Blumsky, could he name a &#8216;first rate&#8217; city that doesn&#8217;t have homeless people? </p>
<p>The only examples I can think of are in countries which don&#8217;t suffer the social alienation of capitalist countries, and also lack the same fanatical adherence for private property and regulations, so are relaxed about people knocking up a hut on unused land.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Buchanan</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8904</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Buchanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8904</guid>
		<description>So far as Wellington goes, there's been a marked increase in the street dwellers over the last 20-odd years. There's always been a few rough sleepers, but it used to be just the same three or four guys you saw all the time. 

However, the problem doesn't seem to be a lack of housing per se, more the drug and alcohol problems and psychiatric conditions that prevent people taking up housing opportunities. 

London has much greater numbers of people living on the streets, I used to meet lots of them when I was working as a park keeper there. They were mostly tolerably pleasant, with one or two exceptions - but whenever I suggested they take up squatting instead of sleeping on the streets, which was easy enough in London, they looked at me as if I was totally dodgy and muttered that they wouldn't want to do something like that. 

They considered squatting criminal and unethical, but I think a lack of initiative was also a factor. It seems to me that the root causes of homelessness - people losing the ability or desire to improve their lives - aren't being seriously tackled. 

Having said that, I've no idea how to go about fixing this problem within the present society. My guess is tha problem has been exacerbated in recent years by the movement towards a more individualistic and less communitarian society, so maybe homelessness is inevitable within capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far as Wellington goes, there&#8217;s been a marked increase in the street dwellers over the last 20-odd years. There&#8217;s always been a few rough sleepers, but it used to be just the same three or four guys you saw all the time. </p>
<p>However, the problem doesn&#8217;t seem to be a lack of housing per se, more the drug and alcohol problems and psychiatric conditions that prevent people taking up housing opportunities. </p>
<p>London has much greater numbers of people living on the streets, I used to meet lots of them when I was working as a park keeper there. They were mostly tolerably pleasant, with one or two exceptions - but whenever I suggested they take up squatting instead of sleeping on the streets, which was easy enough in London, they looked at me as if I was totally dodgy and muttered that they wouldn&#8217;t want to do something like that. </p>
<p>They considered squatting criminal and unethical, but I think a lack of initiative was also a factor. It seems to me that the root causes of homelessness - people losing the ability or desire to improve their lives - aren&#8217;t being seriously tackled. </p>
<p>Having said that, I&#8217;ve no idea how to go about fixing this problem within the present society. My guess is tha problem has been exacerbated in recent years by the movement towards a more individualistic and less communitarian society, so maybe homelessness is inevitable within capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: not here</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8899</link>
		<dc:creator>not here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8899</guid>
		<description>Condolences. I was shocked to learn about Rod. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condolences. I was shocked to learn about Rod. <img src='http://blog.greens.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: boot</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8827</link>
		<dc:creator>boot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 08:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8827</guid>
		<description>Going back to Kiore1 comment above re Tokyo. The "tent cities" in public parks are amazing setups. The residents there arguably have it better than your average Joe Watanabe does "living" in an apartment with barely room to swing the proverbial cat. At least the parks have space, an abundance of greenery, comparably fresher air and often within walking distance to the neighbourhood bathhouse where the majority of residents proudly kept themselves cleaner than many a NZ'er. Some of the "homes" created from a few cardboard boxes and a piece of tarpaulin had to be seen to be believed. Regardless of their circumstances and no doubt "loss of face" within such a highly structured society, I found the majority of  residents to be law abiding (drunk or sober), and with their dignity intact. It would be a sad day if ever these tent cities and their residents were moved on. Being homeless doesn't have to equate to being a drunk with no respect for the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going back to Kiore1 comment above re Tokyo. The &#8220;tent cities&#8221; in public parks are amazing setups. The residents there arguably have it better than your average Joe Watanabe does &#8220;living&#8221; in an apartment with barely room to swing the proverbial cat. At least the parks have space, an abundance of greenery, comparably fresher air and often within walking distance to the neighbourhood bathhouse where the majority of residents proudly kept themselves cleaner than many a NZ&#8217;er. Some of the &#8220;homes&#8221; created from a few cardboard boxes and a piece of tarpaulin had to be seen to be believed. Regardless of their circumstances and no doubt &#8220;loss of face&#8221; within such a highly structured society, I found the majority of  residents to be law abiding (drunk or sober), and with their dignity intact. It would be a sad day if ever these tent cities and their residents were moved on. Being homeless doesn&#8217;t have to equate to being a drunk with no respect for the law.</p>
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		<title>By: andrewudstraw</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8720</link>
		<dc:creator>andrewudstraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 02:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8720</guid>
		<description>There really needs to be an announcement of some kind on the front page of the Green site. I'm sure there are a lot of people looking for more information on the Green site (this is the first place I came to after reading about it in the NZ Herald).

Very sad news.

Andy Straw
Dunedin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There really needs to be an announcement of some kind on the front page of the Green site. I&#8217;m sure there are a lot of people looking for more information on the Green site (this is the first place I came to after reading about it in the NZ Herald).</p>
<p>Very sad news.</p>
<p>Andy Straw<br />
Dunedin</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Wilson</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8719</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 02:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8719</guid>
		<description>Condolences... :-(((((</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condolences&#8230; :-(((((</p>
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		<title>By: Willuknight</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8717</link>
		<dc:creator>Willuknight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2005 02:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/11/05/mall-life/#comment-8717</guid>
		<description>i too have just heard the news. I am saddened and shocked that something like this has happened. I never had the benifit of knowing or meeting him personally, but as the co-leader of the greens i feel he is a magnificent person. 48 is far to young.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i too have just heard the news. I am saddened and shocked that something like this has happened. I never had the benifit of knowing or meeting him personally, but as the co-leader of the greens i feel he is a magnificent person. 48 is far to young.</p>
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