Comments on: The Greens’ new best friends http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/ hopping along the corridors of power Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:29:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: frogmaster http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8174 frogmaster Sun, 23 Oct 2005 23:30:01 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8174 this software supports all the same emoticons as other open source software such as the forum package phpBB. So if you go into any phpBB forum, e.g. http://www.nandor.net.nz/bb/ http://www.norml.org.nz/modules.php?name=Forums http://forum.greens.org.nz/ and write a post, you'll see all the emoticons beside the posting window. Clicking on one of those will place the emoticon into your post, and the code for it will be displayed. The code for the devil smilie is : twisted : with no spaces. Also try : oops : : roll : : lol : : shock : : evil : : wink : but remember, remove the spaces between the : and the word. this software supports all the same emoticons as other open source software such as the forum package phpBB. So if you go into any phpBB forum, e.g.
http://www.nandor.net.nz/bb/
http://www.norml.org.nz/modules.php?name=Forums
http://forum.greens.org.nz/
and write a post, you’ll see all the emoticons beside the posting window. Clicking on one of those will place the emoticon into your post, and the code for it will be displayed. The code for the devil smilie is : twisted : with no spaces. Also try
: oops :
: roll :
: lol :
: shock :
: evil :
: wink :
but remember, remove the spaces between the : and the word.

]]> By: katie http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8171 katie Sun, 23 Oct 2005 22:22:27 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8171 I second that motion, frogmaster, can we formally take a vote on that, bloggers? normal democracy applies, peterquixote, that means you have only yourself to vote/blame for this! like the little devil mask, how do you get that??? katie I second that motion, frogmaster,
can we formally take a vote on that, bloggers?
normal democracy applies, peterquixote, that means you have only yourself to vote/blame for this!

like the little devil mask, how do you get that???
katie

]]> By: Ben Wilson http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8164 Ben Wilson Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:48:43 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8164 No worries. Someone's gotta stop all this forum spam. :0 I think I used the word darned, but I was talking about my socks... No worries. Someone’s gotta stop all this forum spam. :0 I think I used the word darned, but I was talking about my socks…

]]> By: frogmaster http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8162 frogmaster Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:18:02 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8162 yeah so the frogmaster can moderate comments too, so you don't have to wait until tuesday. The list of words that send a comment into the moderation queue is actually only to catch spam trackbacks - this software treats user comments and trackbacks as equivalents so it has to do both - it's a pain, but I don't want to ban trackbacks. (I expect there are other spam blocking plug-ins we could try that only block trackbacks and not user comments, but it's not high on the list of priorities). Meanwhile I have removed a couple of words from the list, e.g. drug, that might be commonly used - the rest are pretty obscure. It's not done for offensiveness. The only offensive word on the list is penis, and that is only because it is common in spam. He he maybe we should add fwwog to the list. :twisted: yeah so the frogmaster can moderate comments too, so you don’t have to wait until tuesday. The list of words that send a comment into the moderation queue is actually only to catch spam trackbacks - this software treats user comments and trackbacks as equivalents so it has to do both - it’s a pain, but I don’t want to ban trackbacks. (I expect there are other spam blocking plug-ins we could try that only block trackbacks and not user comments, but it’s not high on the list of priorities).

Meanwhile I have removed a couple of words from the list, e.g. drug, that might be commonly used - the rest are pretty obscure. It’s not done for offensiveness. The only offensive word on the list is penis, and that is only because it is common in spam.

He he maybe we should add fwwog to the list. :twisted:

]]> By: bjchip http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8160 bjchip Sun, 23 Oct 2005 10:10:08 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8160 Ben There's some auto-filtering that gets triggered if you use some of a long list of words related to spam and offensiveness which frog posted a month or so ago. It isn't real easy to know what the words are, some are REAL weird... it also gets triggered if you have more than 2 links in your post. Frog SOMETIMES manages to set it up so that it tells you that it is "awaiting moderation" but that hasn't worked for me for at least 2 weeks. With Frog off fishing or ferrying crates of stuff through the Beehive, the moderation won't happen for another day. That's as best I know. I've posted a few like that myself, and been real puzzled. respectfully BJ Ben

There’s some auto-filtering that gets triggered if you use some of a long list of words related to spam and offensiveness which frog posted a month or so ago. It isn’t real easy to know what the words are, some are REAL weird… it also gets triggered if you have more than 2 links in your post. Frog SOMETIMES manages to set it up so that it tells you that it is “awaiting moderation” but that hasn’t worked for me for at least 2 weeks. With Frog off fishing or ferrying crates of stuff through the Beehive, the moderation won’t happen for another day.

That’s as best I know. I’ve posted a few like that myself, and been real puzzled.

respectfully
BJ

]]> By: Ben Wilson http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8150 Ben Wilson Sat, 22 Oct 2005 22:18:53 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8150 What gives? Every time I post it doesn't show up. Is this not an open thread? What gives? Every time I post it doesn’t show up. Is this not an open thread?

]]> By: katie http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8137 katie Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:18:21 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8137 well, I'm related to red-neck Labour voters in the Horowhenua/Manawatu area, who have been pushing my buttons about Green policy for a decade or so. Got a birthday card and a polite e-mail post election, WTF was that about, I thought at the time, but now I realise the truth: my family are finally trying to suck up to me :-D Better late than never, eh? well, I’m related to red-neck Labour voters in the Horowhenua/Manawatu area, who have been pushing my buttons about Green policy for a decade or so.

Got a birthday card and a polite e-mail post election, WTF was that about, I thought at the time, but now I realise the truth: my family are finally trying to suck up to me :-D

Better late than never, eh?

]]> By: Ben Wilson http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8129 Ben Wilson Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:14:21 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8129 Greens and Labour will always be friends unless Greens push any particular policy too hard, or Labour does. An alignment in which much is done that Greens would approve of and advocate, despite not being 'officially' in government is pretty much a win, especially when their absence from government is entirely on the insistence of the other parties. I think Peters entire preoccupation is with not being called a liar. In every other way he's comfortable with the outcome. The only danger is Dunne because he's so aligned against Greens. Hopefully his sad legacy will soon be at an end. I'm sure people can see that the ridiculous 'on paper' changes which have to be made to all of our constitutional conventions come entirely from the refusal of this 'centrist' to accept a government containing the Greens. Couldn't he just have an uneasy truce, objecting only when anything really against his principles is raised? No, he'd rather wield his 3 votes like a veto. I'm surprised to read this morning that people see this as a failing of MMP. Would they rather have the FPP result which would have been National + ACT + UF + NZF, despite also (according to the stats) being happy that we now have a Labour government? People can say what they like about MMP failing to deliver, but the truth is the election was close and the government we get reflects that by truly reflecting the indecision of the population. When we're unable to make a clear choice, the mixed bag we have is by far the best and most sensible course. Perhaps it will be three years of only pushing the most sensible and popular policies, and pretty much just debating the rest until the next big poll when the outcome of the debate can be chosen. If we really do get some Green energy and public transport initiatives, I will consider that a really good outcome for the Greens, as it will put them squarely in the 'rational and effective' camp, rather than radicals. I would dearly have loved to see Green drug policy getting some air, but it looks like people are going to take some more convincing before they let all those people out of prison and the closet. 3 years of debate and studies could do it, along with some solid progress on energy efficiency. Greens and Labour will always be friends unless Greens push any particular policy too hard, or Labour does. An alignment in which much is done that Greens would approve of and advocate, despite not being ‘officially’ in government is pretty much a win, especially when their absence from government is entirely on the insistence of the other parties.

I think Peters entire preoccupation is with not being called a liar. In every other way he’s comfortable with the outcome. The only danger is Dunne because he’s so aligned against Greens. Hopefully his sad legacy will soon be at an end. I’m sure people can see that the ridiculous ‘on paper’ changes which have to be made to all of our constitutional conventions come entirely from the refusal of this ‘centrist’ to accept a government containing the Greens. Couldn’t he just have an uneasy truce, objecting only when anything really against his principles is raised? No, he’d rather wield his 3 votes like a veto.

I’m surprised to read this morning that people see this as a failing of MMP. Would they rather have the FPP result which would have been National + ACT + UF + NZF, despite also (according to the stats) being happy that we now have a Labour government? People can say what they like about MMP failing to deliver, but the truth is the election was close and the government we get reflects that by truly reflecting the indecision of the population. When we’re unable to make a clear choice, the mixed bag we have is by far the best and most sensible course. Perhaps it will be three years of only pushing the most sensible and popular policies, and pretty much just debating the rest until the next big poll when the outcome of the debate can be chosen.

If we really do get some Green energy and public transport initiatives, I will consider that a really good outcome for the Greens, as it will put them squarely in the ‘rational and effective’ camp, rather than radicals. I would dearly have loved to see Green drug policy getting some air, but it looks like people are going to take some more convincing before they let all those people out of prison and the closet. 3 years of debate and studies could do it, along with some solid progress on energy efficiency.

]]> By: edosan http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8128 edosan Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:01:44 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8128 I think triffid made a good point about the coast, the difference between those in the buller/grey area and those up in golden bay is huge. The comments O'Conner made could be mainly for their ears, but in my experience the whole west coast is divided between people concerned with the primary extraction industries and hippies. (i.e. those 'alternative' types who are quite likely to vote green... or alcp). I think triffid made a good point about the coast, the difference between those in the buller/grey area and those up in golden bay is huge. The comments O’Conner made could be mainly for their ears, but in my experience the whole west coast is divided between people concerned with the primary extraction industries and hippies. (i.e. those ‘alternative’ types who are quite likely to vote green… or alcp).

]]> By: alistair http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8117 alistair Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:56:20 +0000 http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/10/21/the-greens-new-best-friends/#comment-8117 Stuey, that's pretty interesting about David Parker... Nats have already bagged him for being too inexperienced for such a crucial portfolio... has Clark set him up to be under Green influence? ... that would be lovely. Interesting to see who he appoints as policy advisors etc... It would be ironic if the Greens actually turned out to be more influential, in terms of policy, than NZF... Winsome plays with his baubles while we get down to business... Hey, maybe he's twigged, and that's what the ructions over seating in the House are about? Stuey, that’s pretty interesting about David Parker… Nats have already bagged him for being too inexperienced for such a crucial portfolio… has Clark set him up to be under Green influence? … that would be lovely.

Interesting to see who he appoints as policy advisors etc…

It would be ironic if the Greens actually turned out to be more influential, in terms of policy, than NZF… Winsome plays with his baubles while we get down to business…

Hey, maybe he’s twigged, and that’s what the ructions over seating in the House are about?

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