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		<title>By: zoe</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/04/the-taunts-of-homophobes/#comment-4541</link>
		<dc:creator>zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gay or not, meh who cares (though she isn&#039;t)
As for being a mother, well again, no - she&#039;s Aunty Helen!!</description>
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<p>Gay or not, meh who cares (though she isn&#8217;t)<br />
As for being a mother, well again, no &#8211; she&#8217;s Aunty Helen!!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
		<link>http://blog.greens.org.nz/2005/09/04/the-taunts-of-homophobes/#comment-4425</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Ranapia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I find it rather interesting that Mark Sainsbury - who was standing directly in front of the audience - heard no such comments, according to the SST.

And may I note I didn&#039;t recall the condemnation from this, or any other left blog, when Michael Cullen thought Brash&#039;s nervous breakdown following his separation from his first wife was a big joke.  Very peculiar, considering his wife is a divorcee.  Or how about the frequent sneers about Brash being &quot;an old man in a hurry&quot;, from someone who &#039;aint no spring chicken himself.  

As I said at the time, I turned off the debate inside of five minutes because the constant white noise while both Clark and Brash were speaking was unbearable.  Perhaps Clark needs to check her own hypocrisy - and get Labour&#039;s attack dogs and smear merchants back on the muzzle.

&quot;Revelation&quot;?  Sounds more like someone doing some pre-emptive spin ahead of the Three debate later this week, following criticism that her performance and style reinforces negative perceptions of Clark as Muldoon in drag.   Or a convenient weapon of mass distraction from the plane incident?

BTW, I&#039;d like Winnie Laban and/or the Labour Party to deny rumours I&#039;ve been hearing that in Mana some activists have been pointedly reminding PI/Maori voters of the National candidate&#039;s sexual orientation.  If true, what&#039;s that about?</description>
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<p>Well, I find it rather interesting that Mark Sainsbury &#8211; who was standing directly in front of the audience &#8211; heard no such comments, according to the SST.</p>
<p>And may I note I didn&#8217;t recall the condemnation from this, or any other left blog, when Michael Cullen thought Brash&#8217;s nervous breakdown following his separation from his first wife was a big joke.  Very peculiar, considering his wife is a divorcee.  Or how about the frequent sneers about Brash being &#8220;an old man in a hurry&#8221;, from someone who &#8216;aint no spring chicken himself.  </p>
<p>As I said at the time, I turned off the debate inside of five minutes because the constant white noise while both Clark and Brash were speaking was unbearable.  Perhaps Clark needs to check her own hypocrisy &#8211; and get Labour&#8217;s attack dogs and smear merchants back on the muzzle.</p>
<p>&#8220;Revelation&#8221;?  Sounds more like someone doing some pre-emptive spin ahead of the Three debate later this week, following criticism that her performance and style reinforces negative perceptions of Clark as Muldoon in drag.   Or a convenient weapon of mass distraction from the plane incident?</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;d like Winnie Laban and/or the Labour Party to deny rumours I&#8217;ve been hearing that in Mana some activists have been pointedly reminding PI/Maori voters of the National candidate&#8217;s sexual orientation.  If true, what&#8217;s that about?</p>
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		<title>By: eredwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>eredwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 02:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What people say to denigrate others speaks volumes about themselves.
let me try:

Helen&#039;s faults are:

1.  She is not an instant &quot;turn on&quot; sexually to these male cretins.  
 
Hmm? 
OK women: How would you rate Don Brash or Gerry Brownlee from a female point of view?  (Personally I can&#039;t even bear to think about it !!!)

2.  Suspicion of homosexuality 

Hmm? 
OK gay guys: How would you rate Don Brash or Gerry Brownlee  from a male point of view?  (Personally I can&#039;t even think about that either !!!)

3.  A non Parent

Hmm?  
How would Brash and Brownlee talk about Helen if she were a mother, and contributed the same amount to the parenting of her children as they have to theirs? (What do their respective kids, wives and ex-wives really think on this matter.) 

I won&#039;t go on ... this is too distasteful. 
Imagine how distasteful this is in its implications to Peter, who is a member of the public and not a politician.  

Imagine if another Political Party, by attacking Don, Gerry et al caused the same degree of potential pain by involving the Brownlee/Brash family members.  

Imagine these guys in Government.
Imagine them representing Aotearoa NZ in the world.
(Personally I can&#039;t bear to think about that at all!)

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<p>What people say to denigrate others speaks volumes about themselves.<br />
let me try:</p>
<p>Helen&#8217;s faults are:</p>
<p>1.  She is not an instant &#8220;turn on&#8221; sexually to these male cretins.  </p>
<p>Hmm?<br />
OK women: How would you rate Don Brash or Gerry Brownlee from a female point of view?  (Personally I can&#8217;t even bear to think about it !!!)</p>
<p>2.  Suspicion of homosexuality </p>
<p>Hmm?<br />
OK gay guys: How would you rate Don Brash or Gerry Brownlee  from a male point of view?  (Personally I can&#8217;t even think about that either !!!)</p>
<p>3.  A non Parent</p>
<p>Hmm?<br />
How would Brash and Brownlee talk about Helen if she were a mother, and contributed the same amount to the parenting of her children as they have to theirs? (What do their respective kids, wives and ex-wives really think on this matter.) </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t go on &#8230; this is too distasteful.<br />
Imagine how distasteful this is in its implications to Peter, who is a member of the public and not a politician.  </p>
<p>Imagine if another Political Party, by attacking Don, Gerry et al caused the same degree of potential pain by involving the Brownlee/Brash family members.  </p>
<p>Imagine these guys in Government.<br />
Imagine them representing Aotearoa NZ in the world.<br />
(Personally I can&#8217;t bear to think about that at all!)</p>
<p>eredwen</p>
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