Comments on: Some compassion, please

By: zoe

zoe — Mon, 08 Aug 2005 11:37:59 +0000

ouski –> presumable outski as in out

By: wizban

wizban — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 04:59:38 +0000

sock theif,
I don’t think there is any secret service plot against him and I don’t know the precise details of the situation as pertains to Zauoi, but I know that with the “WOT” countries all around the world made changes to their “security” laws, or introduced “anti terror” laws, also the “intellegence” agencies began sharing more info with each other.
So I don’t think that it would take any orchestrated effort for separate intellegence agencies to work together once he had been listed as a suspect. But if all the info that separate agencies had was from the same original source, and if he was never tried, or convicted or accused of anything. Then we could easily have an “emperors new clothes” type scenario where everyone is just following the rest that were before them.

By: stuey

stuey — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 02:15:26 +0000

I didn’t replace the US with France, I replaced the US with Algeria.

You ask why? because the French have a lot of economic interests in Algeria, so they have to be onside with the regime there.

By: sock thief

sock thief — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 01:38:46 +0000

stuey, you can replace the US by France and the point is the same. But many Zauoi supporters claim that his predicament is a direct result of what they consider to be Bush’s misguided WOT. There are quiet a few unlikely countries that are, according to Zauoi’s supporters, all part of some secret service plot against him.

And if you look at those countries, non have been particularly on side with Bush. France is very pro-Arab and Malaysia is very pro-Muslim so why on earth would those countries have something against Zauoi if not that they considered him dodgy?

By: stuey

stuey — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 01:28:10 +0000

not sure why you think the American’s got the French to convict Zauoi - it was because of the connections between France and their former colony Algeria, nothing to do with the Yanks.

Also, Zaoui was not forced to leave France because of court case - he had already left and was tried in his absence.

By: sock thief

sock thief — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 01:15:56 +0000

wizban, I was being ironic. Of course there is no such conspiracy - but the supporters of Zauoi have to believe in something like this.

I also forgot to add -

Then New Zealand, an agent of the US and abject Bush lackey, finds reason to have Zauoi leave. Something about getting mixed up with terrorits. We all know how much Helen Clark is in the pay of the US.

By: wizban

wizban — Mon, 01 Aug 2005 00:00:57 +0000

I don’t know sock theif. It is an interesting idea but I think that if so many countries kicked Zauoi out, that might be a good reason to be suspicious of him. I don’t see how the U.S. secret service could possibly have masterminded such a “conspiracy” as you call it. Do you have any proof to back up your claim? Also, I had never heard any evidence that the countries you mentioned (France, Belguim, Switzerland, Malaysia) are in any way “in the pay of the U.S.” though I’d be very interested to hear more about why you think this is so. I think there really is a risk of a case like this being turned into a politcal football and the discussion can become about innocence or guilt. When the real issue is one of whether we as a people are prepared to accept a closed legal proccesses. To me, a system where someone can be charged without being told what they are charged with, or be held without charge, or where there is no independant prosecution, defence, judge and jury is to be shunned. I don’t care if a person is caught red handed, they must have access an open legal proccess because if we don’t honour this proccess then our society has become criminal.

By: fastbike

fastbike — Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:19:36 +0000

Scott,

I had typed a farce sign around my first sentence. Unfortunately frog’s server ate them - seems he eats more than annoying buzzing flies

Next time i’ll be more careful with my sarcasm eh.

By: sock thief

sock thief — Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:13:47 +0000

The conspiracy against Zauoi is truely disturbing.

First France, an agent of the US and abject Bush lackey, finds reason to have Zauoi leave. Something about getting mixed up with terrorits. We all know how much France is in the pay of the US.

Then Belgium, an agent of the US and abject Bush lackey, finds reason to have Zauoi leave. Something about getting mixed up with terrorits. We all know how much Belgium is in the pay of the US.

Then Switzerland, an agent of the US and abject Bush lackey, finds reason to have Zauoi leave. Something about getting mixed up with terrorits. We all know how much Switzerland is in the pay of the US.

And finally Malaysia, an agent of the US and abject Bush lackey, finds reason to have Zauoi leave. Something about getting mixed up with terrorits. We all know how much Malaysia is in the pay of the US.

That the US sercret service can engineer such a conspircay all in the name of The War On Terror is truely frightening.

By: Scott

Scott — Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:01:29 +0000

fastbike. The abandonment of legal process. Kind of plays into American hands. That is the hands of those whose terrorists where the Green beret or are CEO of an American owned nulti-national. Who exactly is trying to destroy our freedom and rights? A few suicide bombers doesn’t compare at all to the might of the dollar and the armed forces of countries like Israel. Britain and the US. Even 9-11 isn’t really that significant compared, in body count terms, to the road toll in the US or any other “natural” cause of death.

Must be terrible living in a country that pushes people so hard that little people without power are prepared to give their lives to try and get their cause noticed.