All this amateur ad stuff was fun while it was National allies doing it… Are we to take it from your comments that when Labour allies fight back that it becomes less fun?

My mother said she hated Muldoon for saying that about Rowling, but I think Rowling was too nice and, lets face it, too weak for politics. The jibe was cruel, but……

I think you may have a point. No, not about cowardice, but that Dr Don may be not quite cut out for the toughness required to lead a political party.

Transparency of party funding, yes, definitely, and transparency about how the tax cuts will be funded. If people are to get more of their wage/salary back in their pockets they deserve to know what service cuts will be made. Hip hops and singalongs do not add up to a meaningful reduction in tax to “the mainstream”. Joy.

Same thing with this issue over Iraq and Brash. National don’t want to have it as an issue because they know the majority of NZers would not support being shrub’s lap dog.

Sheer arrogance for the media to say it is not an issue the public care about. Especially when they are the ones who repeat the talking points of the political parties and are too lazy to be journalists.

Funding is a real issue too, and if National are going to be cagey about their supporters and if they use a trust fund to wash the identity off then be careful.
We deserve transparency. That said it would have been nice if Labour carried these new found ideals through their last six years.

Don reminds me of Bill Rowling, A shiver looking for a spine to run up, heh heh heh

this national will find..to their cost…

phil(whoar.co.nz)

I don’t know whether Iraq and anti-Bush sentiment is a big vote shifter. I think it might be big enough.

We’re talking about a 3% shift in the electorate. There will be people who will have to think hard about the two issues and decide on balance. How many I don’t know…

I’d like to see the tax and budget issue explained better by labour. The “surplus” that isn’t and all the rest. That IS the Nats big issue and it looks like a winner if it isn’t addressed by labour or cancelled by Brash being unable to admit a mistake. Infallible, just like Dubya. I have to wonder where these people come from.

I don’t think anyone wants Mallard anymore. I voiced my sentiments earlier, he either has proof (and I note that he neither presented any nor denied he had it) or has a serious problem with his big mouth not being big enough to accomdate his shoes. I am reserving judgement but I can’t imagine why he’d withold supporting evidence if he had any.

respectfully
BJ

Perhaps you will describe it to me, as I have no Windows Media Player and will not let the MS malware on my boxes, and my TV is in a box in the garage until my little girl decides to be a tad better behaved

respectfully
BJ

Well, I think Labour (and the Greens) have grossly over-estimated how useful Iraq and anti-Americanism is as a vote shifter. I’ll keep saying this until you folks on the left get a clue, but if you’re going to go for the jugular it helps if you’re smears have some foundation is fact. Yesterday, Mallard was repeatedly challenged on Agenda to front up with evidence of his allegations that National is funded by Yank sugar daddies, our policy is written in Washington not Wellington etc. etc. etc. He repeatedly declined.

Want to talk about trust? Get your attack dogs sedated.

Do you follow links? Frog links to an “attack ad” (Frog’s words not mine) at Jordan Carter’s blog above - whose source is not disclosed. Um, what was Frog saying about trust and credibility and transparency folks?

I don’t think however, that the tax thing will go away as much as they wish. Labour still needs to make the “spent” nature of the oberac number clear to the population, possibly in the context of paying down overall debt, of which we have plenty. This would take away the Nats most potent weapon.

respectfully
BJ